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Not true in many cases. I consider myself LUCKY that I have an employer that pays for healthcare as a benefit...did you know many companies don't? Or if they do, it's substandard? What about those who have medical problems through no fault of their own?
Yes, people abuse the system... people abuse EVERY system they possibly can, it's human nature unfortunately. But I do feel bad for those who lost their job through no fault of their own and can't afford COBRA..or those with a medical condition they were born with that makes it extremely difficult for them to get a job.
No, I don't want it to be free. I'd like it to be affordable and I think that healthcare should be non-profit. Nobody should profit off of the sick.
Your key word is affordable.
All these bills in congress will NOT make it any more affordable but it will be more costly and hand many millions of people free health care.
No more free, no more handouts.
Obama will spend more money on welfare bums in 2010 then the ENTIRE IRAQ WAR cost for all those years.
Now what do you have to say when you whine about the money being spent in Iraq.
You early excuses was we went for the oil, well, we got no oil did we???
No oil, you all feel for that line of crap and once you found we were not getting any oil then you started this money crap.
Obama and this healthcare scam needs to be stopped period.
All these bills in congress will NOT make it any more affordable but it will be more costly and hand many millions of people free health care.
No more free, no more handouts.
Obama will spend more money on welfare bums in 2010 then the ENTIRE IRAQ WAR cost for all those years.
Now what do you have to say when you whine about the money being spent in Iraq.
You early excuses was we went for the oil, well, we got no oil did we???
No oil, you all feel for that line of crap and once you found we were not getting any oil then you started this money crap.
Obama and this healthcare scam needs to be stopped period.
Wait...what? I never said any of that about the Iraq war so I don't know what you're trying to complain about there.
Personally, I'd rather the money be spent here on 'welfare bums' than over there on the war, but again..that's my opinion only.
What do you suppose we do? Cut off all forms of welfare? Let our own citizens (yes, even the ones who are at a temporary junction in life, surprisingly not all people on welfare are 'bums') die? Let them suffer?
What do YOU propose? Healthcare only for the wealthy? I mean, according to you it seems that they're the only ones who deserve it.
We have the RIGHT to be healthy in the US. The undeniable rights of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" as written in the Declaration of Independence.
We deny "life" at times to those with pre-exsisting conditions or the inablity to pay. We force people into wage slavery due to high healthcare costs, thus they have little "liberty". Well, this all doesn't bode well for the "pursuit of happiness".
Currently this right is VERY limited.
I think you misread the Declaration of Independence.
Life- to live free
Liberty- to live without oppression
Pursuit of Happiness- the freedom to pursue your dreams without oppression from government.
There is nothing there even the most liberal scholar could twist out of that to include government run and taxpayer funded universal health care.
Because healthcare is a business that is more concerned in denial of treatment in order to obtain a profit. If you have a system with shared costs, this eliminates this denial mentality. Rather, a collective good mentality emerges.
You are completely out of touch with reality.
Go to any universal health care system in the world, Canada, UK, etc. Don't care pick one.
They have "managed care". The government sets limits and rules on #'s of treatments and care. Try to get an MRI in Canada for instance.
This belief that with Obamacare you'll be able to get whatever you want, whenever you want is total fiction and people that believe that nonsense are in for a radical dose of reality someday.
Go to any universal health care system in the world, Canada, UK, etc. Don't care pick one.
They have "managed care". The government sets limits and rules on #'s of treatments and care. Try to get an MRI in Canada for instance.
This belief that with Obamacare you'll be able to get whatever you want, whenever you want is total fiction and people that believe that nonsense are in for a radical dose of reality someday.
Well that is true...it isn't like you will be guaranteed whatever care you need....
So. My medication is expensive. Without it, I will not be able to function properly and will probably be put in a wheelchair fairly quickly (among other things...). You are saying that my life is not worth saving because it would cost too much money.
Would you not try to save a relative or close friend who comes down with an affliction if they were unemployed or struggling? What if their claim was denied with their insurance company? You would tell them 'sorry, bummer for you' and go on with your life?
So you don't think with Obamacare that they'll say "well for the collective good your medication costs too much when we can treat 10 other people, so sorry!"
I have no problem with helping any relative or friend that comes down with an affliction or disease and ends up struggling. I think that is one thing we have forgotten in this country is our own support systems of friends and family. No faceless bureaucrat is ever going to care for you like you own friends and family.
Go to any universal health care system in the world, Canada, UK, etc. Don't care pick one.
They have "managed care". The government sets limits and rules on #'s of treatments and care. Try to get an MRI in Canada for instance.
This belief that with Obamacare you'll be able to get whatever you want, whenever you want is total fiction and people that believe that nonsense are in for a radical dose of reality someday.
We have "managed care" now. Hospitals decide if they want to treat the uninsured person or not. Health insurance companies decide if they want to take you on as a customer or not...or if they want to cancel your policy if you develop cancer.
In Canada yes there are waits. Most Canadians are still highly satisfied with their system. In Canada and Britain people have to wait for weeks for non emergency surgeries. In the U.S., there can be waits. My mom had to wait 4 weeks before she had her hysterectomy. I called for a dermatologist appointment about 2 weeks ago and my appointment is next week.
I called 6 weeks ago for an appointment with a headache specialist and my appointment is December 18th!
BUT other nations such as Germany, France, Sweden, and Denmark perform better than the United States on standard measures such as "waiting time to see a specialist" and "waiting time for elective surgery."
In Japan, the waiting time is so short most patients don't even bother to make an appointment!
No system is perfect but we can learn a lot from other countries. We are not the best when it comes to health care....far from it.
It's actually a pretty interesting thing. I could get my meds, and stay a productive citizen...or I could deteriorate to the point of losing my job and going on disability for life, while getting medicare. That way, I'd be getting my meds (still at taxpaye expense) but no being productive.
Interesting, isn't it? Would you like to be saddled with a couple million in debt for a disorder you were born with? I'm not really asking the public to pay for me... but if there was a way to get the prices down I'd be all for that and a public option may be the way to do that.
The way to do that is to eliminate all the existing bureaucracy that siphons off money. Adding another layer of government bureaucrats sure isn't going to help that.
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