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CHENEY: On the security front, I think there’s a general consensus that we’ve made major progress, that the surge has worked. That’s been a major success.
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
That was hardly a fluctuation of public opinion. Somehow I don't believe the smug arrogance of SO? is what people are looking for in a government supposedly representative of the people. At least I'm not.
I'm not a defender or supporter of VP Cheney or his daughter. I'm pointing out that Cheney is behaving in an aberrant fashion. Vice Presidents rarely, if ever, act as vocal defenders of their administration's actions after they leave office. And Cheney isn't just defending his administration, despite what sanrene says. He and his daughters are pitching policy. That's what Liz Cheney's website is all about. Pitching a policy that is much more aggressive than President Obama's. The policy is not a mirror of Bush/Cheney policy, it's a progression. Cheney has no reason to do this. Any so-called attacks on Bush/Cheney by the Obama administration is empty rhetoric. Most Americans just want to put the past behind us and move on. And Cheney and daughter aren't dwelling on the past, either, they are very focused on the future.
I just think VP Cheney is behaving in a way that is far outside the behavior of most ex-VP's. He's not planning to run for office. His association with GW, his age and health are all large negative factors. So what's he doing? He's helping his daughter achieve her political ambitions. And he gets to do it in a way that gives him no small sense of satisfaction.
I think she's doing exactly what she needs to do to run for office. She's solidifying that core conservative base. And part of that base is made up of birthers and extremists. However much she subscribes to their positions, she's going to carefully avoid disavowing them. And she's working the talking circuit, making appearances, making speeches, writing newspaper columns, appearing on Hannity, all while painfully stressing that she's just a mom, her priorities are shuffling all five to their various school and extracurricular activities. What that says to me, is she's trying to fly, but stay under the radar. And using her father as point man is a strategic choice.
The launching of that new website, and the amount of networking she's doing, all suggests that groundwork is being laid for some pretty ambitious plans. Not rural Utah.
Oh, she can make all the plans and lay all the groundwork she wants. Unless she chooses her district very carefully, she's going nowhere.
Oh, she can make all the plans and lay all the groundwork she wants. Unless she chooses her district very carefully, she's going nowhere.
And is there anything about Cheney or his daughter that makes you think they ever behave in a way that isn't thoroughly thought out? All their choices are made very carefully. That is something that should be very clear about them by now.
And is there anything about Cheney or his daughter that makes you think they ever behave in a way that isn't thoroughly thought out? All their choices are made very carefully. That is something that should be very clear about them by now.
I guess that is what makes these two neoCONS amusing... His daughter is not the sharpest tack in the box. I saw her debate Wallace and she was how shall I say, taken to the woodshed...
I'm not a defender or supporter of VP Cheney or his daughter. I'm pointing out that Cheney is behaving in an aberrant fashion. Vice Presidents rarely, if ever, act as vocal defenders of their administration's actions after they leave office. And Cheney isn't just defending his administration, despite what sanrene says. He and his daughters are pitching policy. That's what Liz Cheney's website is all about. Pitching a policy that is much more aggressive than President Obama's. The policy is not a mirror of Bush/Cheney policy, it's a progression. Cheney has no reason to do this. Any so-called attacks on Bush/Cheney by the Obama administration is empty rhetoric. Most Americans just want to put the past behind us and move on. And Cheney and daughter aren't dwelling on the past, either, they are very focused on the future.
I just think VP Cheney is behaving in a way that is far outside the behavior of most ex-VP's. He's not planning to run for office. His association with GW, his age and health are all large negative factors. So what's he doing? He's helping his daughter achieve her political ambitions. And he gets to do it in a way that gives him no small sense of satisfaction.
You comment on his word "So" in answer to that question and it makes me wonder what our Congressional leaders and Obama really are thinking by pushing this healthcare "reform" that will certainly include public option at the end when Rasmussen says that the score for that very bill is 53% against and 42% for. The number of opponents may not be as high as that 2/3 number but it is still a majority and growing every day.
Did Obama promise to complete this "war of necessity", as he called it during the campaign? There are plenty of video clips that show him doing just that. I guess once the FCC finishes its work today they won't be available on YouTube or soon after they finish.
So, Cheney is accusing Obama for continuing the Bush/Cheney policy in Afghanistan. He says the Bush/Cheney policy is a big mistake.
Is that it?
I don't agree with his assesment, because Obama broke away from that policy already by sending 21 000 additional troops there, and now they are talking about sending more. Bush/Cheney mulled for three months over the troop increase to Iraq, so why is Cheney so upset about 30 days now?
You comment on his word "So" in answer to that question and it makes me wonder what our Congressional leaders and Obama really are thinking by pushing this healthcare "reform" that will certainly include public option at the end when Rasmussen says that the score for that very bill is 53% against and 42% for. The number of opponents may not be as high as that 2/3 number but it is still a majority and growing every day.
Did Obama promise to complete this "war of necessity", as he called it during the campaign? There are plenty of video clips that show him doing just that. I guess once the FCC finishes its work today they won't be available on YouTube or soon after they finish.
I didn't comment on his word "so" at all. Did you mean to address this to another poster?
I guess that is what makes these two neoCONS amusing... His daughter is not the sharpest tack in the box. I saw her debate Wallace and she was how shall I say, taken to the woodshed...
I'm going to see if I can find a clip of this so I can get a better feel for her. Thanks.
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