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Old 10-27-2009, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If they are adding blood, and you continue to lose blood faster than they add it, it does not meanyour chances of survival is increased, its only delaying the inevitable..
If you are losing a liter in an hour, you will die in several hours, but if they reduce the loss to half a liter per hour, then they will have twice as much time to fix the root cause. Yes? No, not for you.

Don't you realize that a train must first reduce speed before it can stop and reverse direction?
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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Are you expecting to go from massive job losses to a gaining jobs all at once?
Ahh NOPE.. Are you taking part in some new creative math though to pretend job losses = outlook bright especially with a 19% expected to still LOSE?
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:29 PM
 
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If you are losing a liter in an hour, you will die in several hours, but if they reduce the loss to half a liter per hour, then they will have twice as much time to fix the root cause. Yes? No, not for you.

Don't you realize that a train must first reduce speed before it can stop and reverse direction?
Tell that to someone losing 1/2 a liter an hour of blood, or someone who just suffering from a heart attack.. Hey, at least this heart attack wasnt as bad as the last one....
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:23 PM
 
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Pennsylvania had unemployment go up for September. And August. 8.8% unemployment in Pa right now. 8.7% in August.
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Old 10-27-2009, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Tell that to someone losing 1/2 a liter an hour of blood, or someone who just suffering from a heart attack.. Hey, at least this heart attack wasnt as bad as the last one....
Well, if your coronary artery is 100% blocked you'll die, but if the docs manage to reduce it to 50% in time, you'll live. That's a good example, thanks.
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:06 PM
 
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good for them!
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Ahh NOPE.. Are you taking part in some new creative math though to pretend job losses = outlook bright especially with a 19% expected to still LOSE?
It's called a "trend line" - and you REALLY need to brush up on your math skills if you've never heard of it (then again, maybe you just never progressed that far in school). At the moment the RESULTS are negative, but the TREND LINE is POSITIVE.

"Straight or curved line in a trend chart that indicates the general pattern or direction of a time series data (information in sequence over time). It may be drawn visually by connecting the actual data points or (more frequently) by using statistical techniques such as 'exponential smoothing' or 'moving averages"

trend line definition

Ken
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:32 PM
 
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It's called a "trend line" - and you REALLY need to brush up on your math skills if you've never heard of it (then again, maybe you just never progressed that far in school). At the moment the RESULTS are negative, but the TREND LINE is POSITIVE.

"Straight or curved line in a trend chart that indicates the general pattern or direction of a time series data (information in sequence over time). It may be drawn visually by connecting the actual data points or (more frequently) by using statistical techniques such as 'exponential smoothing' or 'moving averages"

trend line definition

Ken
If I was to use your "trend line" definition, I would have to point out that unemployment rates are increasing, which would dispute your OP. The correct term you would want to use to support your argument is "economic business cycle", but then that would mean Obama wouldnt hold any credit for said recovery.. We wouldnt want to not give Obama credit for a business cycle now would we?
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:36 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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If I was to use your "trend line" definition, I would have to point out that its trending DOWN, which would be counter your thread. The correct term you would want to use is "economic business cycle" which indeed would support your argument, but then that would mean Obama wouldnt hold any credit for said recovery.. We wouldnt want to not give Obama credit for a business cycle now would we?
Then you ACKNOWLEDGE that things are getting better eh?
Why didn't you say so to begin with instead of constantly taking the silly position that it's not?



I don't give a RIP who YOU give credit to. That's of no importance to me whatsoever.



Ken
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Then you ACKNOWLEDGE that things are getting better eh?
Why didn't you say so to begin with instead of constantly taking the silly position that it's not?



I don't give a RIP who YOU give credit to. That's of no importance to me whatsoever.



Ken
That's the problem here. Posters like PGH agree things are getting better, but they take the position to prove otherwise because they fear Obama might get the credit. LOL
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