Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 10-27-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
2,241 posts, read 1,390,902 times
Reputation: 907

Advertisements

The rich are philanthropic because they have to be, and yet the general public still benefits from their "generosity", however forced it may be. We have museums, performance halls, animal shelters and the like at the behest of the rich. I say thank you. Do we want to bite the hand that feeds us?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-27-2009, 08:05 AM
 
1,008 posts, read 2,082,789 times
Reputation: 793
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
That's what you do when you are on a losing side of an argument? Turn it into politics? No surprises there when you want a real argument... you turn tail and run and try to hide your defeat with political mumbo jumbo...
Your forum page is plastered with slogans about how much you hate socialists. It's silly and it makes it difficult to take you seriously, and it's obvious you are here to argue your agenda, and everything you say is just rehashing well known right wing philosophies. Seen it a million times....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
32,832 posts, read 19,553,756 times
Reputation: 9633
because washington dc can never get it right, and end up screwing the average person instead

a prime example...the AMT (alternative Minimum Tax) was designed to impose a tax on the wealthy...well since they havent moved to 'goalposts'...now many middleclass people get hit with it

remember this what is wealthy today, might be the middle or even poor tomorrow......ie a house in 1950 only cost 5k,,,same house today 500k,,,thats costs, the same goes for income
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Thumb of Michigan
4,494 posts, read 7,494,879 times
Reputation: 2541
Default I'm a bit confused by your stance....

Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
Huh? The wealthy ARE paying 36% Federal tax... thats almost 100% more than what most people pay... as of the tax rates now, almost HALF THE COUNTRY pays ZERO taxes... are they "helping" America then and this shows how much they "care"? When did paying more taxes equal "caring" more about America? Are you saying that if you work more, put more in effort and education, become successful through your OWN work... you should pay more? Huh? This is what you think is fair? I guess people like you who like having other people's money without working for it... oh yeah, socialists...

Fair is fair... if they put in the effort and education to become successful then that's what is rightfully theirs... just because you don't have any of the attributes of success doesn't mean you have a right to steal their money...
If i read this correctly, you're not in favor of taxing the rich out of principle? Then.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
That sounds like a good idea... work more and better should always reward itself... unlike these socialists who think stealing is a better idea... They don't like to work cause the work they do isn't that valuable...
you basically agree with me that, in principle, it's a good idea to tax the rich?

Just wondering.....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 08:10 AM
 
1,008 posts, read 2,082,789 times
Reputation: 793
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
Huh? The wealthy ARE paying 36% Federal tax... thats almost 100% more than what most people pay... as of the tax rates now, almost HALF THE COUNTRY pays ZERO taxes... are they "helping" America then and this shows how much they "care"? When did paying more taxes equal "caring" more about America? Are you saying that if you work more, put more in effort and education, become successful through your OWN work... you should pay more? Huh? This is what you think is fair? I guess people like you who like having other people's money without working for it... oh yeah, socialists...

Fair is fair... if they put in the effort and education to become successful then that's what is rightfully theirs... just because you don't have any of the attributes of success doesn't mean you have a right to steal their money...
Yes. If you become rich and successful you should pay more. That is what I think.

Ideally. We could end the rampant waste and corruption in the government. But that is not going to happen unless there is a revolution. So we NEED taxes with our current system and current governement.

If you try to tax the poor any more, that will be like squezzing orange juice out of a dried up old orange peel. There just isn't anything to take except some chump change.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 08:14 AM
 
17,290 posts, read 29,462,255 times
Reputation: 8691
Because many Americans truly don't understand what it really means to be "super wealthy."

Some think they are wealthy when they are far far from, and many others think they will win the lottery.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 09:07 AM
 
35,016 posts, read 39,235,880 times
Reputation: 6195
Quote:
Originally Posted by TristansMommy View Post
Rsprow the rich are really the government. They have purchased policyand have been for quite some time. As a result policies that have been put forth have strangled the middle class while deepening the pockets/ profits of the Corp. Government is fine if it is indeed not sold out to the highest bidder. Just lookat the public option in the healthcare bills and the seeming opposition. 65% uf the population wants it. Insurance companies do not and those most strongly opposed in our government are those that receive the most from insurance companies.

Those with the most have wielded ther power for too long and their greed has gotten out of control. It amazes me those that oppose limiting obscene CEO incomes that are just that obscene! Since that would only apply to companies tht we the people bailed out it only makes sense that we the people through our arm which is the government wield somesort of control and restraint.

Government is not the problem what is the problem is the segment with the largest wealth controlling policy at the behest of the rest of the countries citizens.
This is old but still applies.
Legislation: A Lucrative Investment
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 09:08 AM
 
35,016 posts, read 39,235,880 times
Reputation: 6195
Quote:
Originally Posted by evilnewbie View Post
Huh? The wealthy ARE paying 36% Federal tax... thats almost 100% more than what most people pay... as of the tax rates now, almost HALF THE COUNTRY pays ZERO taxes... are they "helping" America then and this shows how much they "care"? When did paying more taxes equal "caring" more about America? Are you saying that if you work more, put more in effort and education, become successful through your OWN work... you should pay more? Huh? This is what you think is fair? I guess people like you who like having other people's money without working for it... oh yeah, socialists...

Fair is fair... if they put in the effort and education to become successful then that's what is rightfully theirs... just because you don't have any of the attributes of success doesn't mean you have a right to steal their money...
IOW we should all pay more taxes then; the rich pay enough.

Good doggie!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
4,783 posts, read 3,751,153 times
Reputation: 1336
Quote:
Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
This is old but still applies.
Legislation: A Lucrative Investment
LOL...funny link, really. Funny how it didn't mention the biggest businesses, namely government and the private "Federal" Reserve.

But it is good to see someone from the other "side" taking on preferential law, even if it only deals with "business". Good for you!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-27-2009, 09:26 AM
 
35,016 posts, read 39,235,880 times
Reputation: 6195
Quote:
Originally Posted by irspow View Post
LOL...funny link, really. Funny how it didn't mention the biggest businesses, namely government and the private "Federal" Reserve.

But it is good to see someone from the other "side" taking on preferential law, even if it only deals with "business". Good for you!
This *is* about buying government.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:35 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top