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Why would you try to politicize this with that "right-winger" comment?
I guess we're talking about desk jobs, huh?
In my perfect world, you wouldn't get paid for vacation or sick days for office work. At the same time, you'd be able to take as many days off as you want or could afford, instead of a miserly 2 weeks. Workaholics could happily work themselves into the grave and end up with a lot more cash than most, slackers and deadwood could lounge around at home, costing the company less without being as overpaid as they are for unproductive hanging around the office, and everyone inbetween could choose their own path.
Companies would probably have to set some reasonable maximum limit, but it needn't be the miserly vacations most companies dole out nowadays.
If this posting was coming from a conservative, the liberal response would be.
You dont want to give poor hard working enslaved workers time off when they get sick? They are sick, how do you expect them to pay their bills? You mean spirited conservative would rather they just die so you wont have to pay them at all.
This is the policial section, not the "work conditions" category..
No "lib" came on the forum and said anything like
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You dont want to give poor hard working enslaved workers time off when they get sick? They are sick, how do you expect them to pay their bills? You mean spirited conservative would rather they just die so you wont have to pay them at all.
. There were some very well thought out, intelligent resposnes from some people who tend to be conservative politically.
I am more and more beginning to think that company "sick pay" is a bad idea
There's a huge movement in corporate America to move from vacation days and sick days to simply paid time off (PTO).
The only time I ever had problems with people calling in sick was when I worked in retail and the restaurant biz.
Corporate America - people usually and rightly accumulate sick days per their employment contract and can use them as they will. If you use more days than accumulated, you usually find yourself unemployed.
The last company I worked for didn't have sick days, they had "personal days" that you could use for anything you wanted, be it illness, jury duty, or you just want to go to a Cubs game that day. That eliminated the moral dilemma about whether or not to take a "sick day" because you just need a break from work for a day or so. It also encouraged people to take all available days instead of using them only when they were sick.
No "lib" came on the forum and said anything like .
Oooh please, dont make me pull out some of the old forum threads which have accused conservatives of wanting people to die, claiming people cant afford $75 doctors visits, that the working public were enslaved by corporate america, how getting sick means people cant pay their bills.
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Ok, they werent all in the same posting, but we've all been here long enough to know that liberals have accused conservatives of the very same things I've stated going back to atleast the Clinton administration.
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There were some very well thought out, intelligent resposnes from some people who tend to be conservative politically.
I would expect nothing else, liberal makes a statement, conservatives response, thats kinda how it works. How does this relate to my response claiming that if a conservative had made the same statement, liberals would have gone into abserd land as usual.
As I watch certain fellow employees get a virtual extra week of vacation every year by calling in sick, I am more and more beginning to think that company "sick pay" is a bad idea.
What would you do if you hired somebody- let's say a painter to paint your house. He says he will paint it Monday but then he calls you on Sunday and says he won't be able to come tomorrow because he is sick. But then on Tuesday he shows up demanding that you pay him.
Paying employees for being ill is pretty much the same thing in my view. A business pays people to work and not to be ill. Now, have I taken it myself? Yes. 3 days in the last 15 years. Once for a toothache and emergency dental appointment to stop the pain and once for the flu.
But others seem to have the idea that sick pay is like "extra vacation" time. They take it every year. If I ran a business, there would be no "sick pay". If you were sick, your options would be:
1. Use your vacation days
2. You can elect to put 1 hour of pay each 2 weeks into a "sick account" that will give you about 3 days every year in an account you can draw from if you are sick. You can save as many days as you wish and if you don't use them, you will get the money back when you leave or retire.
3. You can elect to purchase "sick insurance" that will pay you when you are ill and cannot work.
Well, all depends. For example, if it's a private company and this company offers its workers paid sick leave, then I see no problems with it.
However, union contracts have allowed private and public companies for providing paid sick leave. This leave is accrued, however. By the way, I bet members of Congress get paid sick and annual leave
Oooh please, dont make me pull out some of the old forum threads which have accused conservatives of wanting people to die, claiming people cant afford $75 doctors visits, that the working public were enslaved by corporate america, how getting sick means people cant pay their bills.
Ok, they werent all in the same posting, but we've all been here long enough to know that liberals have accused conservatives of the very same things I've stated going back to atleast the Clinton administration.
I would expect nothing else, liberal makes a statement, conservatives response, how does this relate to my response claiming that if a conservative had made the same statement, liberals would have gone into abserd land as usual.
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