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Old 11-01-2009, 10:49 PM
LML
 
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There are some people on this forum that are so anti child and anti family that I have to wonder just what is behind their hang-ups.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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There are some people on this forum that are so anti child and anti family that I have to wonder just what is behind their hang-ups.
Nobody has done this yet so here I come. Since both the bills we now have for non-debate on the floor allow paying for abortions I think it would be next to sick to not pay for births. I just don't see why all the discussion and arguing about what is medical care caused by doing a thing on purpose. Again, both bills provide for paying for abortions so I guess babies should be paid for if the earlier fetuses caused money to be spent to kill them.
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:59 PM
 
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But your premise is that people are planning to get pregnant, knowing before hand that it will cost, right?

Well, people are planning to go to the Dr yearly, knowing that it will cost to perform these preventative measures. What's the difference?
Well, tell me? What illness does having a baby prevent?

My point is this; pregnancy and childbirth is NOT an illness or ailment, and in most cases, it is not an accident, yet insurance companies and the government are siphoning money away from people with REAL illnesses and ailments and people who've suffered injuries and accidents to pay for it.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Health care has to cover the effects/illnesses of drug use and abuse, STDs and AIDS. Many people do not put themselves at risk with these behaviors so insurance stop paying for them. I don't want to pay for injuries cause by skydiving, mountain climbing, skiing or any other dangerous sport.


Actually why are we even responding to the baby hating left?
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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Nobody has done this yet so here I come. Since both the bills we now have for non-debate on the floor allow paying for abortions I think it would be next to sick to not pay for births. I just don't see why all the discussion and arguing about what is medical care caused by doing a thing on purpose. Again, both bills provide for paying for abortions so I guess babies should be paid for if the earlier fetuses caused money to be spent to kill them.
That makes no sense.

From a cost-benefit-analysis view point, there's a greater argument for paying for abortions over births.

For one thing, an abortion costs less than $1000, while an live childbirth costs over $10,000 ($20,000 - $50,000 if there are medical complications during the delivery)
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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There are some people on this forum that are so anti child and anti family that I have to wonder just what is behind their hang-ups.

It's too bad their parents didn't feel the same way.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:11 PM
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Having a baby involves the use of medical procedures. Medical procedures are covered by insurance. I guess that in the OP's world only the very rich should be able to have babies and all the rest of us should have abortions....cost effective don't you know. The rest of the civilized world is doing all it can to make having a baby safer for both the baby and the mother and some in this country are trying to make it less so. Guess we can see why the U.S. is leading most of the civilized world in infant mortality. We are becoming less civilized with each passing generation. Since it has become "unAmerican" to value anything above the bottom line we will soon have nothing of value at all.

As far as insurance paying for abortions....it is my belief that health care should PRESERVE life...not extinguish it.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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Having a baby involves the use of medical procedures. Medical procedures are covered by insurance. I guess that in the OP's world only the very rich should be able to have babies and all the rest of us should have abortions....cost effective don't you know.
Well, most people can afford a car and a home (which usually is more expensive than a pregnancy)

If we have car loans and mortgages, why can't we have "pregnancy/childbirth loans?"

Or should car and home insurance help me buy for my car and home in the first place?
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:38 PM
 
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People who CANNOT afford a kid should not HAVE a kid.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:41 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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People who CANNOT afford a kid should not HAVE a kid.
I agree that folks should be prepared for the expense of raising kids before becoming pregnant but how many folks can afford the cost of prenatal doctor visits and the delivery of babies? How can families provide for their kids when they are up in their eyeballs in debt due to the cost of delivery?
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