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Old 11-01-2009, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here is an opportunity to see how Obama has been rated on an approval test month by month since he took office. At least he hasn't dropped much since he first went below zero about 5 months ago. Study the tables to see just what has happened.

Obama Approval Index Month-by-Month - Rasmussen Reports™
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:01 PM
 
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Check out Reagan's ratings for the same period of his presidency. Much, much worse.

Be patient, Roy. Obama's on a very similar trajectory as Reagan, just using different ideological tools. All this hatred from the right will be proven wrong in the long run. Don't worry.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Check out Reagan's ratings for the same period of his presidency. Much, much worse.

Be patient, Roy. Obama's on a very similar trajectory as Reagan, just using different ideological tools. All this hatred from the right will be proven wrong in the long run. Don't worry.

Actually, no.

Reagan came into office with a 51% approval rating that had risen to 54% by Oct. 30 1981. BO started with a 68% approval rating but has fallen to 55%.

By comparison, only Truman has lost popular support faster.

If you think a one point difference is "much, much worse", then the Reagan presidency was indeed a complete failure to this point.

If by "similar trajectory" you mean Reagan was gaining support and BO losing it, then yes, Reagan's trajectory was "similar".

Presidential Popularity Over Time

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Old 11-02-2009, 12:03 AM
 
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For some reason, Rasmussen only includes "likely voters" in their poll results. That explains why they're always skewed from the majority of the other major polls. In my opinion, their results are mostly meaningless. The only time it makes sense to exclude unlikely voters is when you're predicting the results for an actual election. When you're collecting data on an opinion - such as Obama's approval rating - it doesn't make sense to only include likely voters - but for some reason, that's the way Rasmussen does it.

It's best to look at an average of all polls for the best data:

Pollster.com: National Job Approval: Pres. Barack Obama
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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For some reason, Rasmussen only includes "likely voters" in their poll results. That explains why they're always skewed from the majority of the other major polls. In my opinion, their results are mostly meaningless. The only time it makes sense to exclude unlikely voters is when you're predicting the results for an actual election. When you're collecting data on an opinion - such as Obama's approval rating - it doesn't make sense to only include likely voters - but for some reason, that's the way Rasmussen does it.

It's best to look at an average of all polls for the best data:

Pollster.com: National Job Approval: Pres. Barack Obama
Agreed on top of that when you aren't close to an election it is virtually impossible to get an accurate likely voter model.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:20 AM
 
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Actually, no.

Reagan came into office with a 51% approval rating that had risen to 54% by Oct. 30 1981. BO started with a 68% approval rating but has fallen to 55%.

By comparison, only Truman has lost popular support faster.

If you think a one point difference is "much, much worse", then the Reagan presidency was indeed a complete failure to this point.

If by "similar trajectory" you mean Reagan was gaining support and BO losing it, then yes, Reagan's trajectory was "similar".

Presidential Popularity Over Time
Nope.

Reagan plummeted hard and fast before recovering. Rightfully so, since unemployment kept escalating over 2 years after he took office. But, his policies eventually worked and so will Obama's. Have faith in your president.

Presidential Approval Ratings from 1945-2008

Anyway, I don't get your sudden infatuation with approval ratings. You all said Bush was strong for standing the face of popularity and Truman has emerged as one of our more successful presidents, though perceived abysmally at the time.

Kind of irrelevant topic.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:25 AM
 
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Well Obama can forget a recovery, the way he is still campaigning and leaving the troops out to dry and die!
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:47 AM
 
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Well Obama can forget a recovery, the way he is still campaigning and leaving the troops out to dry and die!
Now there's a rational comment.

See you at the next teabagging party.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:58 AM
 
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Well Obama can forget a recovery, the way he is still campaigning and leaving the troops out to dry and die!
His idea of a "recovery" looks more like a funeral for America to some people!
His association with anti-Capitalist, radicals, revolutionaries, Mao admirers and die hard Communists might make one believe he has plans to eventually, "recover" what was once.....America.
Just needs to take care of a few things in his way first......like.....
(stifle free speech) presented by certain figures at the FOX "Information Channel".....since its "really not a news channel" according to those who oppose it.
Then.....get that health care reform bill PASSED and signed into a law that will usher in a new error.....not a new era.....maybe a new terror.
Yippee!

If successful, the Dems. will soon enough, have America looking more like Venezuela, China or Kenya after this "fundamental transformation" is complete. All of this will be the result......when your economic recovery NEVER materializes!
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:06 AM
 
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Well Obama can forget a recovery, the way he is still campaigning and leaving the troops out to dry and die!
We get it. You don't like Obama. You don't need to bash him with every talk radio talking point you can think of to sneak into every thread.

It's interesting that people who actually work in policy and finance never take these extremist positions against him, no matter what their ideology. A lot of experts are crediting his policies with stabilizing the markets and preventing a depression, so perhaps we should give the guy some credit for saving our capitalist system rather than endlessly bashing him for using policies that temporarily differ from our ideology.
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