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Sag is an economist of sorts. Economics of course is not even a real science, but more voodoo and ouji board. They can use words like "might" and "could" without the fear of accountibility.
A lot like statistics. Manipulate as you wish to prove a point.
Story of Jobs: Administration Faces Credibility Gap, as Talk Grows of New Stimulus
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Karl reports: "Officials tell ABC News, so far, they have found 700 mistakenly credited congressional districts out of more than 130,000 stimulus grants."
For the record, there are 435 real congressional districts: "Researchers at the Franklin Center for Government & Public Integrity found 440 ‘phantom districts' listed on Recovery.gov, consuming $6.4 billion and creating or saving nearly 30,000 jobs," the Washington Times' Amanda Carpenter writes.
Sag is an economist of sorts. Economics of course is not even a real science, but more voodoo and ouji board. They can use words like "might" and "could" without the fear of accountibility.
Yessss...and exactly what DB professionals and a well designed system are there to prevent.
They were building a transparency system, not an accounting system. You don't seem able to fathom the difference. Opening up data, data, and more data to the public eye. How many of Bushie's Iraq contracts did anybody ever see. Even the Special Inspector General had to fight tooth and nail to get his hands on those. Meanwhile, all we have here is proof that, gee, the average American has a tendency to make some mistakes when filling out forms for the first time. What a discovery.
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A totally amateurish error that one would not expect coming from an $18 million system.
The $18 million was for redevelopment of the entire recovery.gov domain. The As Reported by Recipients window was a drop in the bucket.
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Oh honey, we had eight years of vicious bile from the Left - there is a lot to make up for.
Ah, driven by pure vindictiveness, I see. That explains a lot. Took such a brutal beating during eight years of riding Bushie face first into the gravel pit that now it's payback time. No fact, no reason, no logic. Just endless, raw, bitter emotion. Who'd have thought.
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I suppose all those news outlets that are reporting the bogus numbers are whackjob - like ABC, WaPo, Politico, CBS, NBC......
Yeah, it's the latest money saver in the media. You don't report a story. You just report the story of somebody else having reported a story...
Ten thousand whackjobs are outraged this evening after so-and-so reported that this-and-that had happened. We don't actually know anything at all about this-and-that, and we certainly aren't about to spend any money to find out. We just know that some number of whackjobs that we heard could be as high as ten thousand was thought by some to be pretty angry about it, maybe even enough to be outraged. And that's the news...
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Guess. You don't need a degree in economics or statistics to debunk and refute your spin.
Well, I don't know, but whatever it is that you've got going isn't working out very well for you. Not when you've got to whip out the Spin Magic Wand every second response or so.
What is less clear is the continued rabid postings by some who will continue to defend the WH is this matter.
Rabid? There is a dearth of substance to the case of the attackers, a group well known for acting not just prematurely, but falsely. The data -- just as described -- are not generated by the administration, but as best they can by the recipients -- thousands and thousands of ordinary Americans. All the administration does is allow other people to look at that reporting. The numbers are not official claims of anything. All the official data will come out of CEA and those data will cover all of ARRA, not just project assistance. There was never any intent to audit the recipient data until the AP did a "limited" review of "some" records. We don't know what they found, but we do know what they reported -- only over-counts. This despite the fact that other reviewers have found hundreds of examples of apparent under-counts. In their second review, the AP focussed on errant recording of Congressional districts. As if this mattered. All of this amounts to much smoke and no fire at all, but partisan minds out there are eager to glom onto it and make from a molehill whatever mountain they can. These are the ones who might better be described as rabid.
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