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He can either follow the ordinance, get the ordinance changed, or get fined/charged/etc.
To me, it doesn't matter if it's the signage is of 10 Commandments, a naked lady, directions to the nearest Papa John's, or instructions for the next terrorist attack.
Businesses don't have freedom of speech?
Sure they do but if you follow the line about the permit the permit is is probably for business signs...We have the same law here... It's just another way to collect a tax...but I can put a sign in my yard if I want to and there is no permit needed unless it is a business sign.
The city has an ordinance against such large signs. Also a permit is required. It is not a matter of displaying the 10 commandments as it is that person's refusal to follow the law. He could put up a smaller sign and get a permit for it. Wouldn't that be the proper thing to do?
As a Christian, I would have to say that, yes, the proper thing to do is follow the laws - get the permit and reduce the size to meet the limitations of the law. I would also suggest that he study his Bible a bit more, specifically Matthew 22, where Jesus talks of authority, specifically instructing us to follow the laws.
If it's on his property and is not interfering with any sight problems (neighbors not being able to pull out of driveway safely) I think he should be allowed to do so. If he were in a gated community and signed a contract stating he wouldn't do such a thing it would be different IMO.
Just like there being laws that I must mow my lawn and cannot leave tires, appliances and other junk in my yard, the laws must be followed.
Anarchy is a stupid way to make a point.
He'll lose his sign and it will cost him a lot of money.
He's stupid.
Sally, it is not a freedom of speech issue, it is a city ordinance issue, and they have the right to issue tickets for people who do not obey these laws. There is not a guarantee of display of ones particular religious nut ideas. If it were a freedom of speech issue I could put up a poster of two gays banging each other and you could not do a thing about it. My god is this what the education system is putting out these days?
First, I'm not Sally..(;>) and the gay thing you brought up is a whole different issue, two people banging each other no matter what their sex would be porn.
And yes it is a matter of free speech..
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
The sign has been up for five years. Recently, the city received a complaint about it. A city only acts on an ordinance if they actually receive a complaint. Also, the sign is big and butt ugly!
Actually I thought the sign wasnt at all ugly, but done in pretty good taste considering the context we are discussion. I guess I'm just more tolerant than liberals though..
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Originally Posted by oldpenny
If it were a freedom of speech issue I could put up a poster of two gays banging each other and you could not do a thing about it. My god is this what the education system is putting out these days?
A poster of two gays banging could be considered "art" considering the context of its display, but gay billboards have indeed gone up, and then back down again due to public complaints.. Complaints bring down 'gay' billboard
The city has an ordinance against such large signs. Also a permit is required. It is not a matter of displaying the 10 commandments as it is that person's refusal to follow the law. He could put up a smaller sign and get a permit for it. Wouldn't that be the proper thing to do?
No. The proper thing to do is repeal the ordinance. What an individual does with his private property is none of the city's business.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Congress shall make no laws, but it says nothing about local ordinances and this comes down to state/local jurisdiction.
For the record, the man is wrong, he should comply with the laws, however I find the arguments opposing the man just ridiculous. He didnt violate any of the 10 commandments, he isnt stupid, and comparing this to signs about terrorism is just pathetic. He put up a sign.. big deal.. Liberal interolance in its finest..
Anarchy is a stupid way to make a point.
He'll lose his sign and it will cost him a lot of money.
He's stupid.
No, calling one stupid for putting up a sign is stupid.. Yes, it will cost him up to $300 (which you deem a lot of money), but I once spent $30,000 to prove a point in court. It wasnt stupid.
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