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I just saw Keith Olberman on msnbc tell his audience that the healthcare bill in the house is wealth redistribution to the insurance companies. Olbeman went on to say this health care bill will raise of health care insurance premiums for Americans, and the elderly and people with any preexisting conditions could end up paying 21% of their income on insurance. We have Howard Dean pretty much saying the same thing.
These are the same things republicans have been saying, so what's up?
Meanwhile on CNN, Campbell Brown thinks the health care bill is great.
I just saw Keith Olberman on msnbc tell his audience that the healthcare bill in the house is wealth redistribution to the insurance companies. Olbeman went on to say this health care bill will raise of health care insurance premiums for Americans, and the elderly and people with any preexisting conditions could end up paying 21% of their income on insurance. We have Howard Dean pretty much saying the same thing.
These are the same things republicans have been saying, so what's up?
Meanwhile on CNN, Campbell Brown thinks the health care bill is great.
You have to try and block a good idea to be an obstructionist. And since the Republican Party doesn’t have any good ideas I wouldn’t consider that obstruction. Actually they rarely even give alternatives to Democratic proposals. They’re just the party of NO!
Sadly, Olberman and Dean are right. The desperately needed health care reform has been sold to the insurance companies by the people we elected to protect us....not the insurance companies. As it now stands it should not be inacted. And I, who says that, have fought for health care reform my entire adult life.
Sadly, Olberman and Dean are right. The desperately needed health care reform has been sold to the insurance companies by the people we elected to protect us....not the insurance companies. As it now stands it should not be inacted. And I, who says that, have fought for health care reform my entire adult life.
You have to try and block a good idea to be an obstructionist. And since the Republican Party doesn’t have any good ideas I wouldn’t consider that obstruction. Actually they rarely even give alternatives to Democratic proposals. They’re just the party of NO!
Guess that does not explain why Olberman and Dean are saying NO.
You have to try and block a good idea to be an obstructionist. And since the Republican Party doesn’t have any good ideas I wouldn’t consider that obstruction. Actually they rarely even give alternatives to Democratic proposals. They’re just the party of NO!
Excellent points. If there's any progress in this country, it certainly won't involve any bright ideas from Republicans.
Republicans pick their noses and scream opposition to spending, yet one wonders where the hell they were when Bush was spending a trillion dollars to lose to a militarily inferior opponent? Guess spending is OK as long as Republicans are doing it.
The fact is that what the house has proposed for health care reform and what the senate is working on, is a mess......both are filled with problems and have many unanswered questions, not to mention that neither is coming close to resolving the original goal they were aiming for. Both will be leaving plenty of the current uninsured still without coverage, while costing everyone more money (you can call it what ever you want taxes, penalties or premiums from mandatory coverage, it's the same thing) and higher premiums (even the CBO said the government option on the house plan would be higher than what private carriers would be charging).
It's just that many who aren't really taking the time to understand what's really wrong with the proposals, are just assuming anything is better than nothing and in this case, that's not true.
It's not that opponents want it to stay the way that it is, it's that given the choice between that and what's being proposed, they realize even no changes would be better than what's being considered.
Back when Hillary was suppose to make health care reform her project, I couldn't see how it was going to be possible. It's very simple if you look at the big picture....you have a much of people with coverage that are all paying way too much and then you have a bunch of people without coverage because they can't afford it. In order for everyone to have coverage, the people paying way too much now are going to have to start paying even more so that the people who can't afford it themselves can be covered. How's that gonna work? The only way it's going to work is with smoke and mirrors.
I personally think the democratics see passage of the bill necessary at this point (at what ever cost), in order for them to have enough continued support and trust from the public to be able to pass any future controversial bills. For Obama, passage of this bill will be what defines his term in office as a success (although if it doesn't pass, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be what defines his term as a failure...if in fact it turns out to be viewed that way by the majority).
Last edited by Danno3314; 12-16-2009 at 08:37 PM..
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