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To both of you, for one, Swedish people are as diverse as anyone, and they have their problems too, like anyone. There is no "group of people who are exactly the same" They have immigrants, children of immigrants who only has Sweden as their "home" country, yet still faces living in two diffeent cultures, they have ethnic swedes, Lapps etc, etc.
They sure do have their fair share of problems, but they also have a fairly sound way of discussing and solving them. They don't blindly follow the directives they get from the EU, even if they're supposed to, possibly because ever since they joined the EU, there hasn't been a single day where the majority of the population wanted to be a member. To call them homogeneous is ignorant and based on lacking knowledge.
...Much like saying it's a classless society, which in no way it is, or has ever been.
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It looks like you conveniently overlooked the fact that Detroit was the home of GM, and they just filed BK, something that doesnt come from "higher profits",
BK doesn't come from competent management either.
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and Ford is located in Dearborn Michigan, which indeed is not Detroit..
Perhaps you can contact the narrator in the video and ask why a Ford logo on a building is featured early on in a video about 'Detroit'?
Take note; 9 of 10 Least debt ridden states are Red.
Take note; 8 of 10 Most debt ridden states are Blue.
Take note; Blue states are typically intellectual centers with better colleges, and higher costs of living. The people are paid higher incomes, and have higher lines of credit.
Red state are mostly in the south and farm belt, where there are much lower costs of living, lower incomes, and lower lines of credit.
Take note; Blue states are typically intellectual centers with better colleges, and higher costs of living. The people are paid higher incomes, and have higher lines of credit.
Red state are mostly in the south and farm belt, where there are much lower costs of living, lower incomes, and lower lines of credit.
Nice try though!
So your claiming that Republicans take their lines of credit to blue states, because, without lines of credits, you dont have capitalism
Actually, Sanrene. Detroit is about as raw an example of capitalism at work as you will ever see.
An industry moved in, brought hundreds of thousands of jobs with it, and then the industry moved out and nothing replaced it.
Simultaneously, suburbia exploded with the Eisenhower Interstate Highway Act combined with the G.I. Bill and every middle class person went to claim their piece of the American dream, leaving their city behind in ruins.
Granted, unions haven't helped, but they have little to do with industries beyond the automakers there.
Wasn't it 40 years of liberalism, government interference and socialism that finally brought the "industry" down?
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Detroit's rise in auto manufacturing make the city into what it was at its height of prosperity and entrepreneurship? Without all the cottage industries and support businesses that grew up along with the auto plants, Detroit might still be just a little town of 200,000 or would have dried up completely like a lot of other towns have done in the post-Henry Ford era. Until NAFTA there was never a reason to believe that people would quit buying American cars and thus no need for the city to "diversify its portfolio." All of Michigan is in the process of diversifying away from the auto industry now but it's not an overnight process.
That's what happens. Everything from its people to its supportive businesses are centered around one major business. If that business fails so does everything around it. NAFTA was an inevitable. There is no such thing as isolationism anymore, that's barbaric. Now the thing that affected the auto industry so bad was its inability to change with the times. That can be directly attributed to its massive union influence who was unwilling to make any concessions till they had no choice. By then it was too late.
I've worked in union environments and it's not till the business is about to fail miserably and no payouts, benefits or retirement plans will get distributed till the union is willing to make concessions. Being in the union I thought they were for the little people too. I was all for getting everything I could out of those evil companies. It wasn't till I grew up that I understood how crippling having a union was to the company. All those companies that I worked for, that had unions, ended up moving elsewhere and into a marketplace where they would not be unionized.
People want to think it's still the times where child labor laws need to be enacted. You have a massive amount of Federal Protections that make unions obsolete now. Competition and an ability to innovate and mainstream is what makes companies able to stay afloat. That's just the way business works now. That policy of being able to innovate is what pushes people to stay educated and keep them on a continual self improvement plan. There is no stagnation that is rewarding anymore. The status quo is not the future.
In this case imagine if the companies would have been able to get rid of the added cost of all those extraordinary benefits and been able to lower its prices on its products to keep them comparable to what was going on in the rest of the market. I've seen figures in the range from $1,000-$2,000 per car. That's a significant difference into what changes people option to what they want to buy.
The fact that they're diversifying now just proves that the leadership in that city was happy with the status quo. It just makes people blind to what is actually going on in the world around them. It's almost too little too late now. The same principals can, and IMO, should be used in personal lives. If you're not willing to change with the times you end up sitting around thinking how did all this happen to me, why did I get left behind and now I can't compete because I'm too old to learn or change jobs/careers. I like to keep in mind that "it's never too late to learn."
Actually as someone who grew up in the metro detroit area, the unions brought prosperity to the area. It died because of inept, greedy management shipping jobs overseas and stagnation in product development. Thats all management not unions. As usual evilnewbie, you need to wake up and face reality.
Maybe you can explain why my city (Boston) is going broke. Hint: The biggest expenditure for the city, by far, is education and the average salary for teachers is over 70,000/year. The teachers can retire after 23 years with 80% of their final year's payrate plus full benefits. Imagine retiring at age 46.
You now have a situation where you have two teachers who filled the same position in the school system who retired early, plus you have to hire a teacher to take their place. The city of Boston is now in the position of paying the salary and full benefits of three different people for one single position in the school system. This is the Teacher's Union in Massachusetts.
Guess who the management is? The taxpayer who doesn't even have a voice in the whole process.
Take note; Blue states are typically intellectual centers with better colleges, and higher costs of living. The people are paid higher incomes, and have higher lines of credit.
Red state are mostly in the south and farm belt, where there are much lower costs of living, lower incomes, and lower lines of credit.
Nice try though!
Nice try but some of the best colleges in the US are also in the south and other red states. What you have offered is no excuse for states spending more then they take in from their citizens.
Maybe the Blue states need to adjust some of their wages of all their intellectual types so they don't go broke. It's not very intellectual to go broke and rely on the federal govt.
Are you saying there are better schools in Michigan then Texas ? I don't think so.
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