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I beg to differ. Being forced to by insurance for 3 to 4 x's what others will pay is an absolute violation of my rights. And those that will be forcing me to do so are 'traitorously' wiping butt with my rights.
Too tired to stay and attempt to talk with anyone.
Will pray for you all.
Good night and may God soften your hearts and open your eyes.
Ginger
You see you all miss the point it's a revolution of words of voices of protest NOT of bloodshed. A million man march can be a "revolution" I'm not saying kill someone or blow somthing up here. I'm saying get you rump to washington and let them hear you I mean really hear you. But, I did leave it open to those of a more violent tendency ,but, only because i'm open to ALL opinions not just those of one side. But, however there may only be "one side" and thats sad that no one even believes in protest anymore in revolutions of words and voices.
I am all for protest and "power to the people" I am a-ok with how things are now. I am very glad to be done w/ bush and look forward to what obama can get done. I think the people who think obama is a muslim socialist non citizen who is taking away are freedoms are truly nutcases who think the sky is falling.
Funny I bet you weren't saying that when Bush had the NSA listening in on your phone conversations?
I was very unhappy when news of this broke. I think that President Bush did a lot of things that were bad for our country, yet I never once thought that it would even come close to justifying a revolution. He was still my President and deserved a modicum of respect for that. I respect the office and I respect our political process, though I think we need to change the way the Congress is structured because partisanship has gotten so bad that we now have nothing but gridlock. Our country has a lot of problems (though you and I definitely disagree fundamentally as to what those problems are), but revolution is not the answer.
I was very unhappy when news of this broke. I think that President Bush did a lot of things that were bad for our country, yet I never once thought that it would even come close to justifying a revolution. He was still my President and deserved a modicum of respect for that. I respect the office and I respect our political process, though I think we need to change the way the Congress is structured because partisanship has gotten so bad that we now have nothing but gridlock. Our country has a lot of problems (though you and I definitely disagree fundamentally as to what those problems are), but revolution is not the answer.
wish I could rep you adrift but already have so one of these will have to do
You see you all miss the point it's a revolution of words of voices of protest NOT of bloodshed. A million man march can be a "revolution" I'm not saying kill someone or blow somthing up here. I'm saying get you rump to washington and let them hear you I mean really hear you. But, I did leave it open to those of a more violent tendency ,but, only because i'm open to ALL opinions not just those of one side. But, however there may only be "one side" and thats sad that no one even believes in protest anymore in revolutions of words and voices.
I believe in protest, but not in a revolution. You need to be more careful with your rhetoric: a revolution means an overthrow of the government. Revolutions and protests are fundamentally different things, protests can lead to a revolution but a revolution is not a protest in any traditional sense.
If we set that aside and deal solely with the notion that there needs to be greater protests, you and I still disagree though I will no longer see you as traitorous, only severely misguided because I believe that we fundamentally disagree as to what's wrong with this country.
If I had to single out one thing that really does need to be changed, its how our Congress is structured coupled with the electoral system for the US Congress. The filibuster in the Senate has become too big of a problem, it is a source of political gridlock that is keeping us from getting anything done. It was originally only intended to be a tool of last resort for the most extreme of cases, now it seems that it is used for every single issue. We simply can't govern that way.
More problematic, however, is the electoral system. Our electoral systems combination of single-member districtswith first-past-the-post elections is the source of the two-party system. Our country is simply too big, with too diverse an array of opinions for it to be adequately represented by only two parties. The partisanship arising from the two-party system is a major source of gridlock and the particularly nasty tone of recent political debates. We need an electoral system which will facilitate a multi-party system to better represent the views of the American people.
People who speak of an armed revolution need to look at the destruction of the civil war. Unless you are personally willing to have your family die, your financial condition reduced to nothing, starve, live in caves, have militiary rule, suspend basic rights, you are not up to it. All of these folks who speak of it are too lazy to get out there and start a new party and do the work, day in and day out it will take. The Republican Party was nothing 10 years before Lincoln. Do these folks have the will to do the work? Do they have the intelligence to do the work? Can they prevent themselves from just being taking over by corporations and extreme groups who turn everyone off?
kdb, calling for the violent overthrow of my country?
You deserve jail time.
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