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Old 01-07-2010, 06:02 AM
 
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UCLA study says legalizing undocumented immigrants would help the economy - latimes.com
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:03 AM
 
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Posted this here because I really want to talk about the economics behind this study..
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Old 01-07-2010, 06:19 AM
 
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it is obviously an insane idea from a man with an agenda, Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda (an associate professor with the UCLA Department of Chicana and Chicano Studies). you always have to consider who is funding these studies and what the motive is behind it.

here is a sentence from the study:
The report said that legalization, along with a program that allows for future immigration based on the labor market, would create jobs, increase wages and generate more tax revenue.

so bringing in more people creates jobs, increases wages, and generates more tax revenue?

i submit that overloading the employment base does the exact opposite of that.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:06 AM
 
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it is obviously an insane idea from a man with an agenda, Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda (an associate professor with the UCLA Department of Chicana and Chicano Studies). you always have to consider who is funding these studies and what the motive is behind it.

here is a sentence from the study:
The report said that legalization, along with a program that allows for future immigration based on the labor market, would create jobs, increase wages and generate more tax revenue.

so bringing in more people creates jobs, increases wages, and generates more tax revenue?

i submit that overloading the employment base does the exact opposite of that.

A department that is so dripping in PC it swims in greivance, bitterness and envy. It used to just be Chicano studies, but had to become "Chicana" and "Chicano" which the word Chicana first because the word Chicano itself felt too "represive, not adequitely signifying the struggle for female liberation".

Chicana feminist thought: the basic ... - Google Books

Sense of value so fragile that dominance, perceived slights, and anger, even in language is a never ending battle. You must continue to be pat on the head and have everyone around you tell you how "special" you are, how important, ney, better than everyone else you are, to shore up your fragile ego and assuage you nearly insatiable sense of anger, resentment and entitlement.

Two snaps and a headspin.

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Old 01-07-2010, 07:22 AM
 
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Face the sad facts here folks.... Another amnesty pretty much has to occur...

However, we need to do what Reagan failed to do with the first one and that is to stop the flow of illegals into the country BEFORE there's any amnesty.... The whole point would be to fix the problem, not to sweep it under the carpet for another 20 years...
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:24 AM
 
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I recall the last legalization (in the 80s?) was supposed to be the "truly last" time it was going to happen. You legalize illegals now and that will send a very wrong message to other aspiring illegals. We need to get strict about illegal immigration including not allowing citizenship for kids of illegals (no anchor babies).

Both parties are keeping an eye on the voting demographics of the future - so expect us to be sold out.

Aside: skills-based and immediate-family-type legal immigration is fine by me - we need more qualified people.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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What screams "economic boom" more then instantly making millions of poor people citizens, so they can claim Medicaid, welfare, WIC or 0bamaCare.

There is a reason why we have been using a controlled form of immigration, so we do not immigrate too many people, too quickly, or too many people in one area and over whelm the local government system.

I always failed to see how it is seen as an increase to tax revenue. Lets take a family of four, who are here illegally. Make them legal, they go on a social welfare program like welfare, public housing, WIC, or simply send their 2 children to the local school. Between the taxpayer money the collect for sending their kids to school, and the social welfare programs, they are probably sucking up $30,000-40,000, and that is not including any taxpayer funded medical or dental. There is no way they will repay anywhere close to that in taxes, so where is the increased tax revenue? Then multiply this scenario by 3-5 million illegal aliens instantly made citizens.
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Old 01-07-2010, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I'm hoping they'll encourage them to relocate to red states and create Democratic voting blocs that will turn those states blue.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's the start. We will get flooded with studies and opinions that amnesty will be good for America.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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This country doesn't need more poor people. That's why we have immigration laws (that everyone seems to see as a suggestion rather than a law). It's supposed to protect the American taxpayer.

This is what is circumvented when they run across the border instead of coming in through the door:

"The Department of Homeland Security and the USCIS insure as part of the U.S. immigration policy that each person staying in the U.S. will earn enough money to support himself or herself and any accompanying dependents."

New Immigration Income Level -Poverty Guidelines- Set for 2009
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