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Old 01-14-2010, 05:01 PM
 
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How about the link in post number 1 of this thread to point out the lie told over and over. Obama pulled a swiftie on the progs and most of them know it but won't admit it.
Try to keep up. Go back and read what link i was requesting.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:03 PM
 
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And, the FEC contains people appointed by the incoming President. I have watched too much crap about that FEC happening ever since it was created and they surely let the "winner" get by with murder about listing that stuff.
Sounds like you have issues with campaign finance reform and corporate influence, and less issues with Obama.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:05 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Obama:

Do as I say, not what I do.


When are Americans going to become individuals once again, instead of blind followers?
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sounds like you have issues with campaign finance reform and corporate influence, and less issues with Obama.
I've got issues with the way Obama refused to list the names of all those supposedly small donors. McCain listed all of his but Obama failed on everything but the really big ones.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Wayland, Roy is pretending he never name calls. It's pretty entertaining actually.
Ah, thank you! I love learning new things.

Sincerely,

grasshopper
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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I've got issues with the way Obama refused to list the names of all those supposedly small donors. McCain listed all of his but Obama failed on everything but the really big ones.
If this is true then it's a problem with the FEC and its effectiveness...

People operate within the system they're granted, you can't fault them for that. If you modify the system so that it prevents whatever issues you have, then that solves the problem. Thus you have issues with the system on this particular point, and less of an issue with the candidate.

Or McCain is some kind of angel, you seem to be ignoring the Keating Five scandal, but to each his own.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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If this is true then it's a problem with the FEC and its effectiveness...

People operate within the system they're granted, you can't fault them for that. If you modify the system so that it prevents whatever issues you have, then that solves the problem. Thus you have issues with the system on this particular point, and less of an issue with the candidate.

Or McCain is some kind of angel, you seem to be ignoring the Keating Five scandal, but to each his own.
Let see now, the Keating 5 was many years ago and I am talking about something that happened just over one year ago. You people keep trying to cover Obama with history but it is Pelosi you are covering him with.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:25 PM
 
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Let see now, the Keating 5 was many years ago and I am talking about something that happened just over one year ago. You people keep trying to cover Obama with history but it is Pelosi you are covering him with.
I'm stating that they're all corrupt and if you're ignoring this you know basically nothing about politics or are being intellectually dishonest.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:49 PM
 
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ah, thank you! I love learning new things.

Sincerely,

grasshopper :d:d:d
lol It is rather obvious to all but him.
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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You're really slow on this one, Roy. This has been out for weeks. Jon Stewart did a funny segment on it highlighting the need for candidates to make abstract promises (for example: "One term president, Bush I: No new taxes; 2 term president (Bush II): Give me a chance to lead and I will lead.")

Anyway, I don't know why it's not on C-Span. I think it's an easy promise to keep and he's hurting himself in much larger ways by not following through. Maybe Congress wouldn't let him. Bad move, either way.
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