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Old 01-19-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I'm waiting for the Republicans to offer altenative solutions instead of simply shooting down those of the opposition.

The Republicans have a vested interest in keeping the majority of Americans in a healthcare system that is broken (its called campaign donations by the insurance companies and healthcare moguls)

It is a very curious thing that the Republican party has convinced many people who themselves desperately need affordable access to healthcare that medical care for ALL Americans is not a right, its socialism?

So this begs the question: do these people believe that calling 911 and having the police/paramedics/firefighters show up is socialism? Is having access to public schools socialism?

What sort of voodoo hex has the Republican party placed on the [MOD CUT/language] zombies?

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Old 01-19-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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Some people just like to get their teabag on. Giggity giggity giggity
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:39 PM
 
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The left wingers, scared, desperate and deranged.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm waiting for the Republicans to offer altenative solutions instead of simply shooting down those of the opposition.

The Republicans have a vested interest in keeping the majority of Americans in a healthcare system that is broken (its called campaign donations by the insurance companies and healthcare moguls)

It is a very curious thing that the Republican party has convinced many people who themselves desperately need affordable access to healthcare that medical care for ALL Americans is not a right, its socialism?

So this begs the question: do these people believe that calling 911 and having the police/paramedics/firefighters show up is socialism? Is having access to public schools socialism?

What sort of voodoo hex has the Republican party placed on the [MOD CUT/language] zombies?
Closed door meeting that ensure the opposition is not invited more or less prevents the offering of alternatives.
Asking how we will pay for huge new programs is not what I would call being obstinate. I call that being smart.
Medicare. I wouldn't want it for health insurance. There are better options available.
Those who desperately need healthcare can get it regardless of ability to pay. That too is a fact. Look no further than how the illegals abuse our emergency room services as proof.
Voodoo? One might ask why the left seems to think that only government mangaged anything is the only viable options.
It is no secret that the gov does a very poor job at managing most things that they control.
$300.00 toilet seats comes to mind.
What I find ironic is how the left will condemn the [MOD CUT/language] for protesting, but when it was Bush in office they called it freedom of speech.
I find it ironic that the left will condemn republicans for the wars, but fail to hold their own accountable for voting to go to war.
party hardliners and their blinders.

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Old 01-19-2010, 03:54 PM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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Well, Cali, you do bring up some very vital points. Where and how does the disconnect in the line of logic occur? Boy, if I knew the answer to that.
The headline reminds me of Reagan era "Vodoo Economics"....funny how thing go around and come around.
[MOD CUT]

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Old 01-19-2010, 03:56 PM
 
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Closed door meeting that ensure the opposition is not invited more or less prevents the offering of alternatives.
That's often the way DC works. I recall Cheney's still-secret closed door sessions with the oil barons early in 2001...
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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I'm waiting for the Republicans to offer altenative solutions instead of simply shooting down those of the opposition.

The Republicans have a vested interest in keeping the majority of Americans in a healthcare system that is broken (its called campaign donations by the insurance companies and healthcare moguls)

It is a very curious thing that the Republican party has convinced many people who themselves desperately need affordable access to healthcare that medical care for ALL Americans is not a right, its socialism?

So this begs the question: do these people believe that calling 911 and having the police/paramedics/firefighters show up is socialism? Is having access to public schools socialism?

What sort of voodoo hex has the Republican party placed on the [MOD CUT/language] zombies?
Why stop with healthcare? I mean, the most basic need is food. Why not tax the rich to pay for food for the poor?

And just to refresh, having the government FORCE Americans to PURCHASE healthcare, but allow certain states and groups to opt out, is what they're calling for. That's not ACCESS to healthcare, that's stealing from the rich, non-union and middle class to give to those that put the Dems into power.

And the Dems are in bed with those evil healthcare moguls and insurance companies - Coakley hosted a fundraiser that was crawling with them. Yup, she's not scum.

And enough with the crude, vulgar references - it's really getting old.

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Old 01-19-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Austin
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That's often the way DC works. I recall Cheney's still-secret closed door sessions with the oil barons early in 2001...
Its ok for republicans to engage in this type of behavior. At least thats what the Bush apologist on this board seem to think.
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What sort of voodoo hex has the Republican party placed on the [MOD CUT/language]zombies?

The majority of the Tea Party, are Independent voters. Meaning they may vote for republicans and democrats in the same election year. They vote for the person not the party.

Democrats will always vote down the party line. Republicans will always vote down the party line, those votes are already accounted for.

Your seeing the Independent vote, loud and clear.

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Old 01-19-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Closed door meeting that ensure the opposition is not invited more or less prevents the offering of alternatives.
Asking how we will pay for huge new programs is not what I would call being obstinate. I call that being smart.
Medicare. I wouldn't want it for health insurance. There are better options available.
Those who desperately need healthcare can get it regardless of ability to pay. That too is a fact. Look no further than how the illegals abuse our emergency room services as proof.
Voodoo? One might ask why the left seems to think that only government mangaged anything is the only viable options.
It is no secret that the gov does a very poor job at managing most things that they control.
$300.00 toilet seats comes to mind.
What I find ironic is how the left will condemn the [MOD CUT/language] for protesting, but when it was Bush in office they called it freedom of speech.
I find it ironic that the left will condemn republicans for the wars, but fail to hold their own accountable for voting to go to war.
party hardliners and their blinders.
That is simply not true. You are referring to simple medical issues that can be addressed in an emergency room.

Try having stage 4 cancer (or a severe heart condition or any other major health issue) and being denied critical procedures by your insurance company or having your policy cancelled altogether. You can't just pick up and go to another insurance company because you would be denied a policy due to pre-existing conditions.

Why can't the Republican party work together with the Democrats for a solution that benefits ALL of us? Why is it more important to stonewall for the sake of the party than to pass legislation that will benefit the people?

Instead of chanting that the country is moving in the wrong direction why not help to move the country in the right direction by working in a bipartisan manner? The Republican party had eight years in the White House with very little accomplished, why not take this opportunity to work for a better America?

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