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Old 01-19-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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"I can't remember the last time I felt such overwhelming rage... toward the Republican Party" - Democratic Underground

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As you stated, the Republican Party of this new century is shot through with nihilists. Unabashed nihilists. But what leaves me shaking with anger damn near every day since President Obama's inauguration is the pure smugness and nonchalance of their nihilism.

Palin, McConnell, DeMint, Boehner, Cantor, Rubio, Scott Brown and the rest of the Ailes- and Limbaugh-warped GOP: Would you trust any one of these goons to greet you at Wal-Mart, much less govern our country? The question answers itself. They literally care nothing for America. They have spent the past decade doubling the national debt, running up record deficits, indulging the depradations of Wall Street, expanding Medicare by a trillion dollars while refusing to cover the cost, needlessly and shamelessly cutting taxes by two trillion dollars while again refusing to cover the cost, degrading the Army and Marine Corps to the point where it will take them both at least a decade to recover, jailing and torturing detainees and lying about it, manipulating intelligence in order to invade Iraq out of some sick neocon thirst for vanity and glory. I could go on, but that would take hours, and only make me angrier.

Suffice to say that Republicans lecturing the country about fiscal responsibilty, economic recovery, governing - or anything else, for that matter - would be like Mick Jagger lecturing Mother Teresa about excessive promiscuity.

Karl Rove and Dick Cheney were thankfully not present at America's founding. But their political descendants will certainly be present at America's demise.


I especially agree with the line about fiscal responsibility, economic recovery, and governing!
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Fargo, ND
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Shocking, a Democrat blaming Republicans for their woes.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: PA
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The republican party has many voices and faces.
Republican and Democrats BOTH supported the fiscal irresponisblity, both BENEFITED from the expanison of social programs and the continue expansion of the federal government. Democrats controlled the congress for 2 years while Bush was in office and also passed and promoted the BAILOUTS of corporations and banks. Democrats voted to use force in IRAQ and to nation build. They agreed to continue the funding.
Obama and the democrats currently control the congress and senate and dont need the republicans to PASS anything. Seems to me even the democrats have many voices and faces and dont all agree with the continued policies of the BUSH admin.
Obama took office continuing the fiscal irresponsiblity continuing the war and now trying to "fix" healthcare.
Seems to me the whole nation should be mad at all of GOVERMMENT no matter if you have a R or D next to the name.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Shocking, a Democrat blaming Republicans for their woes.
This is the very problem.

I know some Republicans who will accept that the economic downturn in this country, that one of the two wars we are fighting was needless and caused by their party, and that the same leaders they have now who are calling for fiscal responsiblity and government transperency, are the exact same leaders who doubled our national debt, held most congressional meetings behind closed doors, and dolled out "no bid" contracts to businesses that were closely alligned with their own interests.

However, you seem to not blame the Republican party at all. Democrats have a point. When Clinton left office, the economy wasn't great, but it sure as hell wasn't in the mess as when the present administration took office.

Read this closesly.

No President in history has ever lowered taxes during a time of war, save one, President George W. Bush.

That includes several other Republican Presidents.

Now the Dems aren't blameless. They went right along with the war in Iraq, and a lot of other stupid things they signed off on. The current congress and President aren't saints either, signing secret deals to try and get a healthcare bill passed, bailing out automakers who needed to declare bankruptcy, and several other things.

However, I will say that a lot of what they are doing, and spending, is here at home. Not to some over seas conglomerate of war profiteers.

So before you start the "typical Dems blaming Repubs" for everything, look at your party real hard in the mirror. The same idiots who are leading you down the primrose path now, are the same idiots who allowed it to happen for the last 8 years to.

When we all take a moment, to step back, and look at whats best for our country, then things will get better. When we cooperate, things get better. When we learn from the past, things get better. But the man behind the elephant curtain, is still the same bunch of morons there were before. Maybe its time for a New Republican party. One thats truly conservative, and who chooses to work with the current President. Instead of being the party of "no"
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Shocking, a Democrat blaming Republicans for their woes.
The quote was written by Andrew Sullivan, who, I believe, is still a Republican.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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What a worthless thread; partisan tools playing right into the hands of the corporate oligarchy.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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They have spent the past decade doubling the national debt, running up record deficits, indulging the depradations of Wall Street, expanding Medicare by a trillion dollars while refusing to cover the cost...


Absolutely correct and one of the reasons that fiscal conservatives are so unhappy with the Republican party. Yet, Obama and the current round of Dems in power take all of these issues and ramp up the mistakes by an order of magnitude. Dumb and dumber...so much for change.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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hypocracy at its finest.

railing against republicans for running up the national debt while a democrat controlled government has THIS YEAR ALONE quadrupled it.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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Absolutely correct and one of the reasons that fiscal conservatives are so unhappy with the Republican party. Yet, Obama and the current round of Dems in power take all of these issues and ramp up the mistakes by an order of magnitude. Dumb and dumber...so much for change.
Good thought there Toy... dumb and dumber.

Kinda like republicans and democrats in action.

Sorry tho', the C-D bot says no more reps today.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:59 PM
 
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hypocracy at its finest.

railing against republicans for running up the national debt while a democrat controlled government has THIS YEAR ALONE quadrupled it.
Per pretty much all Republicans, Democrats aren't the party of fiscal responsibility, whereas Republicans are. If they can't cash in on that then you can't really call Democratic voters hypocrites regarding that.
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