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I haven't started to read it yet but I just bought a book by Thomas Sowell called Intellectuals and Society. I'm quoting from the book jacket so I can not give you a link:
"This is a study of how intellectuals as a class affect modern societies by shaping the climate of public opinion in which official policies develop on issues ranging from economics to law to war and peace...One of the most surprising aspects of this study is how often intellectuals have been proved not only wrong, but grossly and disasterously wrong in their prescriptions for the ills of society---and how little their views have changed in response to empirical evidence of the disasters entailed by those views."
Since I haven't read it yet, I can't apply it to any aspect of Climategate (and the book may have been written before Climategate) but the refusal to at least consider other evidence by other scientists seems like it will fit Sowell's conclusions.
From 6-7 hours of Fox News a day to plagiarist Thomas Sowell. I must say Laura, you along with Hawkeye and Sunshine have to be the most colourful and comical characters on this forum.
untrained bloggers who can barely spell the terms they misuse are to be the new high priests of knowledge...
And this differs from MSM how? Once you understand an issue intimately then read or hear what the MSM prints they become laughable. At least the bloggers are being honest and not pretending to be something they aren't.
And this differs from MSM how? Once you understand an issue intimately then read or hear what the MSM prints they become laughable. At least the bloggers are being honest and not pretending to be something they aren't.
Yeah thomas lowell the true voice of straightforward info
Don't all you people on the right have something better to do than try to sit around and talk about how things are made up because the UN want to take over the world. You just go around denying science in support of some huge multi national oil firm but you can't even see it. You are to tied up politically to even admit that humans have had a huge negative impact on the planet.
Now I will sit and wait for all of your very predictable responses. But seriously wake up and realize that if humans continue on this path we are hurting ourselves. The planet will get rid of us and heal itself if we don't change.
Score for dumbest post in this thread: 10
Score for adding something to discussion: 0
As far as the highlighted part goes I got news for you, there's more money to be made by corporations, bankers and others with Global warming that there ever will be in oil.... including by oil companies. Open your eyes man...
* Imtiaz Ahmad, Executive Director - Carbon Trader, Morgan Stanley
* Bruce Braine, Vice President, Strategic Planning & Analysis, AEP
* Georgia Callahan, General Manager, Environment and Climate Change, Chevron
* Karen Degouve, Head of the European Carbon Fund, Natixis
* Robert Dornau, Director, Climate Change Services, SGS
* Arne Mogren, Head of Public Affairs, Vattenfall
* Lasse Nord, Senior Vice President, Climate and Environment, Norsk Hydro
* Wendy Poulton, General Manager, Corporate Sustainability, Eskom
* Louis Redshaw, Head of Environmental Markets, Barclays Capital
* Masayuki Sasanouchi, Project General Manager, Environmental Affairs Division, Toyota
* Lee Solsbery, Director, Global Energy and Environment, ERM
* Marc Stuart, Director, Ecosecurities
* Luis Trevino, Electricity Development Director, CEMEX
* Patrick Verhagen, Senior Vice President, Environmental Relations, Holcim
* John Wells, Vice President, Environment, BP
And this differs from MSM how? Once you understand an issue intimately then read or hear what the MSM prints they become laughable. At least the bloggers are being honest and not pretending to be something they aren't.
You'll get no defense of the MSM from me. There are a handful of good reporters and journalists among them, but by and large, the MSM is a vast wasteland (thank you, Newton Minow) of drab and talentless mediocrity.
The blogosphere meanwhile is rarely even so good as drab and talentless, and those relatively few blogs that do exhibit actual talent, seriousness, and insight tend to have traffic volumes that are absolutely miniscule.
“This requires a massive redirection of capital,” Masters says. “You can’t have a successful climate policy without the heavy, heavy involvement of financial institutions.”
As a young London banker in the early 1990s, Masters was part of JPMorgan’s team developing ideas for transferring risk to third parties. She went on to manage credit risk for JPMorgan’s investment bank.
Among the credit derivatives that grew from the bank’s early efforts was the credit-default swap.
Masters is considered the inventor of the credit default swap, in case you missed the news these have been largely blamed for the recent financial meltdown.
As far as the highlighted part goes I got news for you, there's more money to be made by corporations, bankers and others with Global warming that there ever will be in oil.... including by oil companies. Open your eyes man...
Masters is considered the inventor of the credit default swap, in case you missed the news these have been largely blamed for the recent financial meltdown.
CDS's were another domino, but hardly the first domino or even close to it. Keep in mind that in normal times there are virtually no financial flows in the CDS market aside from the premium payments from the buyer to the seller. Something else has to fail before CDS's can become any sort of probelm, and that first failure has to cause or at least imply a lot of other failures. Once that sort of a scenario begins to unfold, CDS's become an accelarant and so help turn problems into big problems. There is otherwise nothing wrong with them as hedge instruments, particularly if they are bought, sold, and maintained under oversight and in a regulated market.
yeah ok the oil industry own the world. they touch everything . you wake up
you planning on responding with anything more than school ground antics? Seriously, you claim to have some "superior understanding", certainly an intelligent and informed person such as you could provide an argument in your own words and supply the necessary support to the argument to validate it?
I mean, we don't want the good people reading to think you are simply a big mouth spouting off a partisan position without any support do we? You are the "intelligent" and "informed" party by your position, it should be easy for you to combat any questions with hard science that supports your position? right? Aren't you going to provide anything?
Or... will people here see your continued fallacious arguments as just another idiot pawn spouting off for their religious belief? You aren't an idiot are you Organick? Surely you can show this by supporting your arguments? By all means, school us lowly individuals with your qualified facts and evidence.
You aren't another uninformed ignorant idiot on the internet right? Surely you have a relevant position that can be quantified right?
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