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Old 02-01-2010, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The Political (P)oopquake

Let's be fair and balanced (sarcasm) and note that Demopublicans and Republicrats are unequally to blame. In true political correct speech, all the parties have partied too long on the public's dime... or dollar... or fifty... or gigabuck, depending on how you view inflation that Congress caused.

Regardless of the party in power, trying to get in power, or leaving power, the issue is simple: government is the problem and not the solution.

More government will not resolve the problem.

Mister Ignorance has been living in too many houses, and eating up everything in sight. It's time we kick him out the door.

In case you were asleep in history class, or never read the Declaration of Independence, you might spend some time reading the very beginning. In it, you should find that government has TWO JOBS:
1. Secure rights, and
2. Govern those who consent.


Pretty simple, right?

If government is NOT securing a right endowed by your Creator (i.e., life, liberty, property ownership), then it is doing something by your consent.

Really?
Yes.
Really and truly?
Yes.
Pick a law, any law, and see if it is in group 1, securing a right, or group 2, governing those who consent.

Group 1 laws are E-Z to figure out. It's self evident that murder, theft, assault, trespass and similar acts are evil, because you have an injured party, a victim, whose person or property was deliberately damaged.

Group 2 laws are not so easy to figure out. The reason is simple. Those in power, pulling the strings, know that if you knew you had the power to say NO to them, they'd be defeated.

To illustrate the power of gross ignorance, let us look at conscription, aka "Selective Service". The majority of Americans are unaware that draftees are volunteers.

(WHAT!? Any Draft dodger from the 1960s would tell you that HE had not volunteered.)

In Selective Draft Law Cases, 245 U.S. 366 (1918), the Supreme Court ruled that the military draft was not "involuntary servitude".

Okay, is that CLEAR? The Supreme Court ruled that it was not involuntary servitude - it was voluntary servitude.

How do we know this to be true?
First, let us check what the law defines as "the militia".
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder.

Art. 1, Sec. 8, USCON
Congress shall have power ... To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
The Supreme Court has held, in Butler v. Perry, 240 U.S. 328 (1916), that the Thirteenth Amendment does not prohibit "enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the state, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc."

Wait a minute - being obligated to train, fight and die on command is a definite violation of one's inalienable rights to life, liberty and property ownership.

If you are a U.S. citizen, between 17 and 45, you are the militia, whether organized or disorganized. And you are subject to the regulation of your superior, the U.S. Congress and those officers whom it places over you.

By your consent... to be their citizen.
CITIZEN - ... Citizens are members of a political community who, in their associative capacity, have established or submitted themselves to the dominion of government for the promotion of the general welfare and the protection of their individual as well as collective rights.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed. p.244

SUBJECT - One that owes allegiance to a sovereign and is governed by his laws.
...Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. The term is little used, in this sense, in countries enjoying a republican form of government.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1425


"... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to the term "subject" in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government. ... he who before was a "subject of the King" is now a citizen of the State."
State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)
Do you see?
Citizenship cannot be imposed at birth, without it being involuntary servitude. Civic duties are based on consent when one declares to be a citizen of the U.S.A.

Did anyone explain that once you gave consent, you waived job #1 - securing rights? Did anyone ever tell you that your birthright was the republican form of government? Did anyone inform you that you left it, when you joined the democratic form, and consented to be their citizen / subject?

BTW - there is no law compelling participation in national socialism (Socialist InSecurity), nor is there any law punishing Americans who do not participate. It is 100% voluntary - voluntary servitude.

Coincidentally, only U.S. citizens can apply on Form SS-5, for an account and number with SocSec.

The tragedy is that if only people read and comprehended the compact known as the U.S. Constitution, we may never have been conquered by Mister Ignorance and enslaved by Collectivists and Usurers.

What is the foundation for freedom and liberty in these united States?
United States Constitution, Article 4, Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion...

"GOVERNMENT (Republican Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, ... directly ...."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695
Who are sovereign?
The people, not the government.

Really?
Yes.

Prove it...
It will be admitted on all hands that with the exception of the powers granted to the states and the federal government, through the Constitutions, the people of the several states are unconditionally sovereign within their respective states.
Ohio L. Ins. & T. Co. v. Debolt 16 How. 416, 14 L.Ed. 997

In America, however, the case is widely different. Our government is founded upon compact. Sovereignty was, and is, in the people.
Glass vs The Sloop Betsey, 3 Dall 6 (1794)

Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts.
Yick Wo vs Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356, 370 (1886)

People are supreme, not the state.
Waring v. the Mayor of Savannah, 60 GA at 93.

The people of the state, as the successors of its former sovereign, are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his own prerogative.
Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY)

At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and they are truly the sovereigns of the country.
Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, 463
That can't be right - we've fought wars to make the world safe for DEMOCRACY!
DEMOCRACY - That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 432
Uh oh... we know that citizens have voluntary duties. And a democracy is composed of the whole body of citizens, who indirectly exercise sovereignty - via representative government.

Is there any reference to Americans who are not citizens?
Certainly.
"The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different states in this union, the free inhabitants of each of these states... shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several states; ..."
[Article IV of the Articles of Confederation (1777)]
Bet you were never informed that free inhabitants (American nationals) didn't have to volunteer to be citizens.

Who is an inhabitant?
"INHABITANT - One who resides actually and permanently in a given place, and has his domicile there."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.782

"DOMICILE - A person's legal home. That place where a man has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the intention of returning."
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.484
Oh, you must mean "legal residence", right?
WRONG...
"RESIDENCE - Place where one actually lives ... Residence implies something more than physical presence and something less than domicile. The terms 'resident' and 'residence' have no precise legal meaning... [One can have many residences but only one domicile]
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p.1308, 1309
If you claim to have a residence, it is LESS than a domicile (a legal home). Coincidentally, no state issues (or requires) licenses for non-residents who do not have residences in their state.

Do states really recognize the difference between inhabitants and residents?
Sure.
" No inhabitant of this state shall be molested in person or property ... on account of religious opinions..."
- - - Georgia Constitution, Article 1, Sec.1, Paragraph 4
Blood starting to boil yet?

Who would do this to millions of Americans?

Mister Ignorance!

The basic fact hidden in plain sight: The U.S. Constitution recognizes private property rights, and communism and socialism, by definition, abolish private property rights.
From the Communist manifesto:
“In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”

Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
… nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

“PRIVATE PROPERTY – As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels.” – - – Black’s Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217

“OWNERSHIP – … Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute dominion over it… The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the use is restricted. ” – - -Black’s Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
Since 1935, and America’s “voluntary” socialist revolution, Americans no longer absolutely own private property. Isn’t it true that government can TAKE your property, and not pay just compensation?

That’s prima facie evidence that no one has private property rights anymore. All that remains is qualified ownership, with the STATE having the superior claim.

Isn’t that theft by government?

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! Soon to be the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America.

Personally, I’d rather that each individual own himself, his labor, the fruits of his labor and all that he acquires by his lawful activities. No one should be compelled to labor for the benefit of another just so that no one should (suffer / die) because they do not have (fill in the blank).

Slavery is never an acceptable solution to the ills of mankind.

And that's why no collectivist / progressive / socialist / communist dares to be honest and forthright. They aspire to enslave the masses, steal all private property, and wield absolute power.

What was the birthright, the endowment from our Creator (not the government), that generations of progressive propaganda erased?

That you were endowed with the right to life - and the right to do any harmless act (without asking permission) in support of that right - and the right to defend that life from attack (by any tool you wished) - and that you could petition the government to help you secure your rights (after injury). And as the absolute owner of your "person" (corpus), no one had any authority to compel you to work for their benefit, nor impair your inalienable rights to liberty - as in natural liberty (sovereignty over your private property) and personal liberty (right of locomotion - to travel upon the public roads and waterways) without asking any man's leave (or prior permission from the servant government).

Americans were born with the capacity to become kings without subjects, sovereign over their domain (private property), free from interference from anyone else in the exercise of their liberties.

Coincidentally, there is no other nation on Earth where the people are sovereign over the government. The enemies of the republican form of government have achieved a great victory - for this generation is lost to the snares of Mister Ignorance. Our children's children will curse our names and memories if we fail to preserve it, in this desperate hour.
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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Freedom is an illusion. Extend and pretend.
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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Freedom is an illusion. Extend and pretend.
If you surrender your freedom, freedom is an illusion... a foolish illusion.
Or is it foolish to surrender freedom?
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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I'm against the draft.
I prefer to pay an insurance premium for social security and do not wish to see anyone forced into funding it, but at the same time, not force SS to pay for those who did not contribute to the fund.

I believe taxation schemes that create situations where I can be evicted from my paid for home and land should be renegotiated fairly, otherwise, we need to announce loudly were are a feudal society and not mince words about it anymore. I am against feudalism.

I believe that the only intelligent presentations of these issues come from anarchists, but anarchists offer no solutions beyond endorsing overthrow of government. My government is there to enforce laws our civilization found necessary to function. I do not advocate now, nor will I ever, overthrowing government. Reorganization, repeal of laws, plan B--- fine. The rest is, frankly, a bad case of oppositional defiance disorder.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:13 PM
 
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I'm against the draft.
I prefer to pay an insurance premium for social security and do not wish to see anyone forced into funding it, but at the same time, not force SS to pay for those who did not contribute to the fund.

I believe taxation schemes that create situations where I can be evicted from my paid for home and land should be renegotiated fairly, otherwise, we need to announce loudly were are a feudal society and not mince words about it anymore. I am against feudalism.

I believe that the only intelligent presentations of these issues come from anarchists, but anarchists offer no solutions beyond endorsing overthrow of government. My government is there to enforce laws our civilization found necessary to function. I do not advocate now, nor will I ever, overthrowing government. Reorganization, repeal of laws, plan B--- fine. The rest is, frankly, a bad case of Oppositional Defiance Disorder.
Odd - I like that!

But it's more common than odd.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:27 PM
 
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BehaveNet® Clinical Capsule™: Oppositional Defiant Disorder (http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/odd.htm - broken link)
BEHAVE!!!
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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BehaveNet® Clinical Capsule™: Oppositional Defiant Disorder (http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/odd.htm - broken link)
BEHAVE!!!
You're cute.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:42 PM
 
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The republican form of government is not anarchy. Sovereignty is the source of law. The sovereign people are the beneficiaries of the protections of government.

However, if one has given consent to be governed, all bets are off.
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:59 PM
 
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I agree with one thing ;that your and my children and their children will curse us as the generation that sold them into a much worse future by our greedy spending as they will be paying the deficit bills for decades to come.They wouldn't even remmeber any banker bonuses as anything but small change while this was being done by us and the administration.
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