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Old 02-06-2010, 10:42 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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I know that the law or the Constitution aren't your strong suit but...



Being an illegal is against the law, but it isn't a crime.



Which I guess would be the reason why the, dare I say it, Obama administration is having her deported... duh!



Like I said, the law isn't your strong suit.



Ah, what would you suggest?



THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DEPORT HER! Since when has initiating deportation proceedings (a verb) translate into doing nothing?????

Nice twist.

Obama has known she is here illegally for years and covered it up.

She in a criminal. It would not take long to look into her receiving welfare benefits and being illegal at the same time. That my dear is fraud.

Do NOT give Obama credit for her hearing.

He knew about it years ago and did nothing, that tells us what and who he would protect even if it is against the law.

Just to school you on the law here you go.


Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
  • Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
  • Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
  • Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.



You have been told by your party leaders who love those criminals here that it is not a crime.You need to stop believing anything they tell you because they are LYING to you.
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Old 02-06-2010, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90 View Post
Nice twist.

Obama has known she is here illegally for years and covered it up.

She in a criminal. It would not take long to look into her receiving welfare benefits and being illegal at the same time. That my dear is fraud.

Do NOT give Obama credit for her hearing.

He knew about it years ago and did nothing, that tells us what and who he would protect even if it is against the law.

Just to school you on the law here you go.


Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who:
  • Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or
  • Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
  • Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact;
has committed a federal crime.

Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense.



You have been told by your party leaders who love those criminals here that it is not a crime.You need to stop believing anything they tell you because they are LYING to you.

From what i've read, she came here legally.
Requested asylum 4 years ago, was denied and didnt leave.

Nowhere has their been any mention of any previous contact or discussions about her status with her relative, the current president.
(I don't think it would come up, even if they had causal conversation)

Her refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law.

Last edited by plannine; 02-06-2010 at 11:40 PM..
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Obama can't even get his Illegal alien aunt a decent paying job(or help out her status ),what makes you think he can get Americans back to work?


Lets get this straight right now. Government does not and cannot create jobs, unless they are building a bigger government which takes more tax dollars, to pay for the increase in government jobs.

Government is in the way of the private sector, to create the jobs needed for the majority of Americans.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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Monkey boy needs to sit down and stop spending our money. If he just did that (or was unable to do that because of congress) the economy would turn around quickly.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:22 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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[quote=ovcatto;12777125]
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I know that the law or the Constitution aren't your strong suit but...



Being an illegal is against the law, but it isn't a crime.
Apparently the law is not your strong suit, along with accepted definitions of words. Breaking the law is illegal; so far so good. Breaking the law is a crime (hence the law in the first place) which would make her a criminal. No matter how you try to deny it. See how that works?

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Which I guess would be the reason why the, dare I say it, Obama administration is having her deported... duh!
Ask the southern illegals how long they can fight to stay after being picked up by ICE. Guaranteed that it isn't years. Can you say favoritism?


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Like I said, the law isn't your strong suit.
As indicated, logical thinking is apparently not your strong suit.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Originally Posted by plannine View Post
From what i've read, she came here legally.
Requested asylum 4 years ago, was denied and didnt leave.

Nowhere has their been any mention of any previous contact or discussions about her status with her relative, the current president.
(I don't think it would come up, even if they had causal conversation)

Her refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law.
She was lawfully ordered to leave the country and did not obey the order, hence breaking a federal law. This equals criminal behavior, regardless of what the liberals want it to mean.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Default Obama and Jobs

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Unless you mean Obama and losing jobs
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:33 AM
 
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Obama can't even get his Illegal alien aunt a decent paying job(or help out her status ),what makes you think he can get Americans back to work?

It is kind of funny seeing "Obama" and "jobs" in the same sentence. I thought they were mutually exclusive.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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She was lawfully ordered to leave the country and did not obey the order, hence breaking a federal law. This equals criminal behavior, regardless of what the liberals want it to mean.
Still not a "federal crime" as stated by the original commenter.
You can't just "throw her out", you have to go through the administrative process. No INS agents. No jail time. Eventually, just a escort to the airport and a plane ticket.

But, hey, why all the worry about her. We have (in this state) over 6000 people who have been waiting years to hear if their applications for citizenship have been accepted, including some who have been working for the government for years. Another 4000 people here are seeking asylum, without any action.

The system doesn't work fast. Hasn't in decades. So most of the outrage is just for show (again). Get over it.

(so far, from what I've read, the previous administration knew of her existence, and could of started proceedings against her years ago...what were they waiting for?....why the holdup?)
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:05 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Still not a "federal crime" as stated by the original commenter.
So, according to you and your vastly superior (at least in your own mind) intellect, breaking a federal law is not a federal crime? What color is the sky in your universe?

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You can't just "throw her out", you have to go through the administrative process. No INS agents. No jail time. Eventually, just a escort to the airport and a plane ticket.
Once again, ask those collected by ICE and immediately deported if your statement equates to their experience. Any bets?

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But, hey, why all the worry about her. We have (in this state) over 6000 people who have been waiting years to hear if their applications for citizenship have been accepted, including some who have been working for the government for years. Another 4000 people here are seeking asylum, without any action.
So, according to you, criminal behavior excuses criminal behavior, because of the inefficiency of government? Sounds like the liberal basis for all laws.

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The system doesn't work fast. Hasn't in decades. So most of the outrage is just for show (again). Get over it.
Partially correct. The system doesn't work, primarily because of those who wish to grant citizenship rights to those who are not citizens. In other words, liberals. Their fault. You get over it, or at least admit it.

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(so far, from what I've read, the previous administration knew of her existence, and could of started proceedings against her years ago...what were they waiting for?....why the holdup?)
Aw, been waiting for that from you. Blame Bush. The liberal answer to everything that they screw up and don't want to fix.
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