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Old 02-25-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Where in the Constitution is the Federal Government given the authority to compel someone to purchase health insurance?

Since those of you on the left obviously thoroughly reject our founding and governing documents (The Declaration and the Constitution), what are the limits on the power of the Federal Government, and where do they come from?
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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For it to be constitutional, all doctors, nurses, pharmacists, or anyone involved in healthcare, would have to become an employee of the government and your mandate on forced payment for government services, would be additional taxes.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Advocates for healthcare reform, or really any social program run by the federal government(medicare/medicaid/social security/welfare/etc) could really care less whether the constitution gives them permission to pass universal healthcare. They believe this is a democracy, so if the people(through their representatives) want universal healthcare, then there will be universal healthcare. And it will be validated by the open-ended "commerce clause" by activist empathic judges.

You are really wasting your breath.

And if you really believe the Republican party gives a crap about the constitution, then you are also mistaken. Both parties give lip-service to the constitution, but the words, meanings, and history behind the constitution are completely lost in their political agenda's. And all of them desire to have control over everyone elses lives, because they think they know best.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Advocates for healthcare reform, or really any social program run by the federal government(medicare/medicaid/social security/welfare/etc) could really care less whether the constitution gives them permission to pass universal healthcare. They believe this is a democracy, so if the people(through their representatives) want universal healthcare, then there will be universal healthcare. And it will be validated by the open-ended "commerce clause" by activist empathic judges.

You are really wasting your breath.
I agree with all of this except for "activist empathetic judges."
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:34 PM
 
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Where in the Constitution is the Federal Government given the authority to compel someone to purchase health insurance?

Since those of you on the left obviously thoroughly reject our founding and governing documents (The Declaration and the Constitution), what are the limits on the power of the Federal Government, and where do they come from?

Who on the left stated in wrote that they rejected the Declaration and or the Constitution? This generalization should be interesting.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Who on the left stated in wrote that they rejected the Declaration and or the Constitution? This generalization should be interesting.
If you know anything about the declaration of independence(which created basically zero federal government power at all) and the constitution(which formed a republic, and the constitution itself and the bill of rights was created almost entirely as a limitation on the federal government) then you'll realize why both parties could care less about the constitution. In fact, the Bill of rights doesn't even apply to the states. The Bill of rights only existed as a limitation on the federal government. It had been tested all through the early 1800's. It wasn't until the unconstitutional 14th amendment(go look it up), which paved the way for the federal government to begin expanding exponentially(go read about the reconstruction), that all of the sudden they decided that the Bill of Rights should apply to the states.

We might as well rip up the constitution, because it really means nothing.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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If you know anything about the declaration of independence(which wants basically zero federal government at all) and the constitution(which formed a republic, and the constitution itself and the bill of rights was created almost entirely as a limitation on the federal government) then you'll realize why both parties could care less about the constitution. In fact, the Bill of rights doesn't even apply to the states. The Bill of rights only existed as a limitation on the federal government.

We might as well rip the thing up, because it means nothing.

I'm fully aware of both documents, what i'm not aware of is the broad statement the OP made concerning the "Left" rejecting them.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I'm fully aware of both documents, what i'm not aware of is the broad statement the OP made concerning the "Left" rejecting them.
I'm saying the Left and the Right both ignore them.
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Old 02-25-2010, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Where in the Constitution is the Federal Government given the authority to compel someone to purchase health insurance?

Since those of you on the left obviously thoroughly reject our founding and governing documents (The Declaration and the Constitution), what are the limits on the power of the Federal Government, and where do they come from?
I have to wonder if people had these objections when Medicare and Social Security were implemented....
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I have to wonder if people had these objections when Medicare and Social Security were implemented....


Yes! There were plenty of objections.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help you!
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