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View Poll Results: Is President Obama too reasonable for his own good?
Yes 23 46.94%
No 20 40.82%
Not sure 6 12.24%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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If he were more forceful from the outset with his proposals, he could then moderate his positions as negotiations proceed, and he would be more appreciated for his willingness to compromise. Instead, he starts out wanting to "play nice" with everybody, and gets steamrolled as the process moves along. The health care debate is a prime example of this.

Why Obama's Too Reasonable for His Own Good - Newsweek.com
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:08 PM
 
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He's getting steamrolled??

The Dems are going for reconciliation, at his request. Trying to pass legislation that affects nearly every American, that will cost over 2 trillion. That his own party doesn't fully support, and no members of the opposing party support. And most importantly...the public doesn't support!!

Tell me again who's getting steamrolled?
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The fact that REPUBLICANS have collosal flaws doesn't reflect one bit on President Obama's brilliance. Some say he's too reasonable. I say that Republicans are wholly unreasonable. He attempted to "reach across the table" as he promised, but I'm sure even he has to admit that trying to make progress with Republican input is as useless as a blind man turning around to look.

President Obama doing an excellent job, now realizing that to get things done, he must go around clueless Republicans. After all, 8 horrific years of Bush taught us that Republicans are no longer qualified to be a major political party or to be taken seriously.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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The fact that REPUBLICANS have collosal flaws doesn't reflect one bit on President Obama's brilliance. Some say he's too reasonable. I say that Republicans are wholly unreasonable. He attempted to "reach across the table" as he promised, but I'm sure even he has to admit that trying to make progress with Republican input is as useless as a blind man turning around to look.

President Obama doing an excellent job, now realizing that to get things done, he must go around clueless Republicans. After all, 8 horrific years of Bush taught us that Republicans are no longer qualified to be a major political party or to be taken seriously.
Step One: Please remove head from sand.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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I read that article and disagree strongly. Whenever I hear the "Obama is soft" charge from a liberal it is usually a politically unsophisticated type (ie, Moore, Maher, Krugman(brilliant, but doesn't get the game) et al) who doesn't really understand how Washington works. You can't just hammer stuff in the way many think you can. Look: the system is broken. The game is rigged. If you want to wax poetic about that, fine. I'll probably end up agreeing with you. But as the system stands now, legislation has to be massaged, cradled, amended, and then (maybe) sent forward.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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No, he's not too reasonable, he still thinks he is working with adults. I don't many of us do, however.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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If he were more forceful from the outset with his proposals, he could then moderate his positions as negotiations proceed, and he would be more appreciated for his willingness to compromise. Instead, he starts out wanting to "play nice" with everybody, and gets steamrolled as the process moves along. The health care debate is a prime example of this.

Why Obama's Too Reasonable for His Own Good - Newsweek.com

If by reasonable you mean directly and willfully opposed to the expressed desire of the voters, then yes, I agree. He is far too reasonable.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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If by reasonable you mean directly and willfully opposed to the expressed desire of the voters, then yes, I agree. He is far too reasonable.
How so?

I'll probably disagree, but as a sincere request, why not bother explaining or defending yourself? What is up with people who come on here to just spew one-liners and then skate away? Why bother making the post?
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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He hasn't been reasonable about the public option, much less single payer, he hasn't been active about financial reform, letting an 80 year old man do most of the leg work.

He has been quite reasonable with savvy suits and health industry insiders.

Its a shame, there have been surprisingly more women that have been outspoken on reform while the White House has been disturbingly silent.
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Old 03-03-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Highland, CA (formerly Newark, NJ)
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My beef with Obama is he feels obligated like he has to get an opinion from the right. Bipartisanship is a good thing, but these morons don't want to help you or the country. They'll never soften up to him. The best thing he could do is take what he has with his liberal congress and get done what he feels should be done. Screw gridlock. Pass healthcare reform, wellfare reform, loosen gun laws, raise taxes on upper class, and so on. If the Republicans whine, tell them to kiss his half black/half white rear. And when he's campaigning in 2012 he can say "I loosened gun laws and reformed wellfare laws, 2 conservative instutitions, in 4 years. None of which the right could do in their 6 years in total power."
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