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Actually, the only reason why most people discredit and ignore him is because he has been proven time and time and time again to present absolute lies or distort the truth to such an extreme so as to make even sensible issues become cast as some radical, extremist cancer on American society. People who are looking to find that will be drawn to it. Most independent thinkers know well enough to avoid it.
One need look no further than the Van Jones lynch mob to see how distorting facts and flat out lying about an individual can have dire consequences on the efforts to get our nation on the righteous path again.
I am no fan of Glenn Beck, but all he did with Van Jones is play clips of VAN JONES TALKING. If you think Van Jones words are Glenn Becks fault, all I can say is wow.
Funny, I'm a social studies teacher and I haven't received my indoctrination orders yet. I wonder where they are.
I've never heard of most of those groups or events, nor have I heard of the "National Day of Action to Defend Education". But of course, the idiots that listen to Beck will take his word instead of actually going to their local school to verify this stuff.
Still more proof that the Glenn Beck phenomenon is a cult.
Here is a teacher, fearful of the exposure brainwashing out children has become. Exposing the bad in America is only bad, to those being exposed for what they are.
Today Beck took progressives who have come to control public education to task and reported too much about them for them to keep going if enough people see his show. Now I am challenging, again, all you liberals or progressives to watch his show on the website that carries it and then tell me all the untruths he told. It would be fun jawing with any of you who really think what he said was nothing but lies.
Pay special attention to the part about Generation WE when you watch it. That is the generation that was born after 1978 and have all been told all kinds of crap by the teachers' unions, other unions and many other progressive groups.
Hey, all you good old conservatives may watch this if you want to. There is plenty there to make one wonder just how many communists really are around these days.
Watch the show at Glenn Beck Clips 03-05-10 I hope there isn't too much truth there for the progressives who take a chance and watch it.
All they do is attack Beck on a personal level. He's crazy, he cries, he's a conspiracy guy, he's an ex-alcoholic.....blah blah.....
But they never debate the issues he brings up. Why? Because they are true! So they use the Saul Alinski method.....denegrate the messenger, marginalize him so that no one will listen.
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Here is a teacher, fearful of the exposure brainwashing out children has become. Exposing the bad in America is only bad, to those being exposed for what they are.
Beck starts out citing a 'study', an unidentified study, For all we know that 'study' was Beck studying his navel, how can what he says be taken for anything but opinion? The only thing he's exposing is his great ability to make a living expressing opinion, good for him, Barnum would be proud
I am no fan of Glenn Beck, but all he did with Van Jones is play clips of VAN JONES TALKING. If you think Van Jones words are Glenn Becks fault, all I can say is wow.
That's where you're understandably incorrect. That's where Beck deceives people. I have studied Beck and dismiss him not out of ignorance because he thinks differently but because he fails to make a coherent and logical argument without distortion and lies.
Using Van Jones as an example, Beck would play a clip of Jones talking about "redistributing" wealth. Beck would then stop the clip and self-righteously rant about him being a communist or whatever because used the phrase "redistribute wealth", never allowing viewers to understand that his entire speech was about using the sun and wind capital on Native American reservations around which to build an economy in the same way timber and mining companies use the wood and ore capital on their properties.
That's the free market, just used in a way that is cleaner and able to fundamentally address poverty at its root - not handouts, not welfare, but building capital by utilizing renewable energy assets an impoverished community already has.
Van Jones should be seen as every capitalist's wet dream - he's trying to fulfill the vision of capitalism to provide for all! But Beck portrayed him as a radical and, ironically, pushed a capitalist out of a White House Beck thinks is sorely lacking in such ideology!
Here's this "radical" Van Jones in his own words:
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'... What I have found is that leaders from impoverished areas like Oakland, California, tended to focus on three areas: social justice, political solutions, and social change. They care primarily about "the people." They focused their efforts on fixing schools, improving health care, defending civil rights, and reducing the prison population. Their studies center on "social change" work like lobbying, campaigning, and protesting. They were wary of businesses; instead, they turned to the political system and government to help solve the problems of the community.
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The leaders I met from affluent places like Marin County (just north of San Francisco), San Francisco, and Silicon Valley had what seemed to be the opposite approach. Their three focus areas were ecology, business solutions, and inner change. They were champions of the environment who cared primarily about "the planet." They worked to save the rain forests and important species like whales and polar bears. Also, they were usually dedicated to "inner change" work, including meditation and yoga. And they put a great deal of stress on making wise, Earth-honoring consumer choices. In fact, many were either green entrepreneurs or investors in eco-friendly business in the first place.'"
I realize this thread isn't about Van Jones, but it's CRITICAL that all of you understand how BEck manipulates reality on any subject. It is critical to dismiss Beck immediately without even engaging in the topic itself because he has no credibility. Now that we have proven Beck's lack of credibility, let's look at this particular issue...
All they do is attack Beck on a personal level. He's crazy, he cries, he's a conspiracy guy, he's an ex-alcoholic.....blah blah.....
But they never debate the issues he brings up. Why? Because they are true! So they use the Saul Alinski method.....denegrate the messenger, marginalize him so that no one will listen.
But it's not working this time.
I have watched these videos. As my previous post proved why Beck should never be taken seriously on any subject, I will suspend disbelief for a moment and explain why he should not be taken seriously on this particular rant.
Beck is basically saying, "Someone is using media (video, book) to spread ideas that are different from my own. Therefore, that person is a radical indoctrinating our children." Ironically, Beck does the exact same thing on his show yet sees it as "spreading the truth" rather than indoctrination.
So while this "Eric" speaks of a new generation that is more global, tech savvy, and environmentally aware (all verifiable facts, btw), Beck sees it as indoctrination because Eric is not advocating for jingoistic provincialism, adherence to outdated fossil fuel economies, and tribalism behind arbitrary political boundaries.
Beck says that because the same rivers aren't catching on fire locally due to such heavy pollution from an industrial manufacturing economy that has moved elsewhere, that there is suddenly no pollution in the United States or the world to care about since there's less pollution today than in 1969. Beck willfully ignores the fact that those same manufacturing processes are simply creating the pollution over in China or Taiwan or down in Mexico today. Out of sight, out of mind. Enjoy your refrigerator, car, and IPod and pretend there's no pollution created in its manufacture in countries that have minimal environmental and labor regulations, or technology in their businesses to protect waterways and air.
Beck advocates that we consume products in a global economy that knows no political sovereignty, but the minute young people link their consumption to to pollution being generated somewhere in the world or identify with this global society, they are being indoctrinated.
Absurd. We live in a global economy in a way his older base never experienced when they were young so they can't grasp it. We live in a global society. Beck fears that inevitable fact and tries to indoctrinate elderly people in Kansas who are not ready for that global and environmental transition the same way he accuses Eric of indoctrinating young people in New York who are ready for it and are eager to mobilize to make it happen.
Disagreeing with Beck's one ideology is not indoctrination. It's simply the Democratic process working the way it should.
Funny, I'm a social studies teacher and I haven't received my indoctrination orders yet. I wonder where they are.
I've never heard of most of those groups or events, nor have I heard of the "National Day of Action to Defend Education". But of course, the idiots that listen to Beck will take his word instead of actually going to their local school to verify this stuff.
"National Day of Action to Defend Education" was out in force, right here in CA. Protesters got violent; they blocked traffic, smashed out car windows and threw punches. You don't need to listen to Glenn Beck to see what's happening, you just have to open your eyes.
I hope Beck has more programs exposing the indoctrination in the schools by these communists, liberals and marxists teachers. It's their life's work to twist the minds of the most innocent among us. They are nothing more than predators on the minds of children for their agendas.
Beck is doing a whole lot of "indoctrinating" to childish minds as well.
Today Beck took progressives who have come to control public education to task and reported too much about them for them to keep going if enough people see his show.<snip>
I'll just reply to this part of your post 'oldboy, if what you say is true doesn't it prove how dumbed down Americans have become? I mean if all it takes is a dumbass like Glenn Beck to show Americans the light doesn't that prove they are dumber than he is? Come on admit it 'oldboy you are infatuated with Beck, he has brainwashed you.....right?
Actually, the only reason why most people discredit and ignore him is because he has been proven time and time and time again to present absolute lies or distort the truth to such an extreme so as to make even sensible issues become cast as some radical, extremist cancer on American society. People who are looking to find that will be drawn to it. Most independent thinkers know well enough to avoid it.
One need look no further than the Van Jones lynch mob to see how distorting facts and flat out lying about an individual can have dire consequences on the efforts to get our nation on the righteous path again.
Actually, that is a false statement. Almost everything you hear him discuss can be found for yourself through your own research. He sensationalizes some things because as "Liberal Voice" said above, his show is also entertainment. But the fact remains, when I do catch Beck on the radio, the things he is discussing are real, and they are a threat to our society as we know it.
Now, if you happen to think the old ways are all wrong and need to change, then Beck would be your public enemy #1, because he wants us to study up and see how much our government, and not just under Obama's government, is trying to change America. How they have slowly seeped into every facet of your life. Just how far do you plan to let them go before you realize that this is not about party or ideology to them, this is about control. And people like Beck touch on a lot of truth amidst their ranting and that is what you must realize. It's not all lies. Don't let your personal feelings or "media" induced feelings about the man rob you of an opportunity to hear some factual information. And then, follow up yourself and see where it leads. Not just on the net, get some books, write congress, ask for copies of legislature, whatever, it's all in your power to do so.
The man is not a liar, but I won't say he tells the whole truth either. I beleive he lies, everyone lies. But not about everything folks, not everything.
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