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That's the gist of the bill the House it going to try to pass on Sunday. It does two things:
1.) It will "deem" the Senate's HC bill as "passed".
2.) It will pass a series of modifications to that Senate HC bill.
Well, guess what, sports fans. That means that the House is passing a DIFFERENT bill from what the Senate passed, since the House is modifying the bill.
That means the Senate must now approve the modifications in this Sunday bill... or else there will be nothing for the President to sign.
Even if this "deeming" of "passage" was somehow Constitutional, the addition of modifications to the Senate bill by the House, makes it un-signable by the President.
The Constitution requires that the House and Senate pass the SAME, IDENTICAL bill, to be able to send it to the President for his signature.
The House shell-game masters seem to be pretending that if the bill deeming passage, has a set of modifications next to it in the same bill, then somehow the bill isn't modified for signing purposes, but IS modified for House-passage purposes.
Can anybody figure out these bizarre pretzel twists Nancy Pelosi is going through, to put forth this amazing charade?
Sorry, Nancy. If your bill modifies the Senate HC bill, then it's NOT the same bill the Senate passed.
Back to the drawing board, Dems. You just shot yourselves in the foot with this attempted stunt.
Pelosi is also promising that Executive Orders will be signed to fix the bill AFTER the vote of course. She does not want any correction votes. Vote in the bill and let Executive Orders fix it later.
Odd way for bills to get out of the legislative branch.
Pelosi is also promising that Executive Orders will be signed to fix the bill AFTER the vote of course. She does not want any correction votes. Vote in the bill and let Executive Orders fix it later.
Odd way for bills to get out of the legislative branch.
If that's even legal, then why don't they just do it all that way?
Obama can simply enact the entire Health Care bill by Executive Order.
As long as they're going to violate the Constitution, why not get serious about it?
How this works is simple, when you think about it.
The Senate had to make promises to certain states, and Senators, to get the bill passed. It allowed in a lot of exemptions, and other stuff that should never been allowed in. However, that was needed to pass a bill at all.
What the house is going to do, is pass the original Senate bill. Immediately after, they will pass resolutions to fix the bill, they just passed. Then the "fix it" bill, will go before the Senate, to remove all of the special stuff that no one likes in the Senate bill. This will likely pass, because it will garner some Republican support, because its fixing things that should be fixed.
So, its not passing a new bill, its passing the old bill, then just trying overhall the old bill. No guarantees they'll pass the reform bill in the Senate, but in all likely hood, it will happen.
That's the gist of the bill the House it going to try to pass on Sunday. It does two things:
1.) It will "deem" the Senate's HC bill as "passed".
2.) It will pass a series of modifications to that Senate HC bill.
Well, guess what, sports fans. That means that the House is passing a DIFFERENT bill from what the Senate passed, since the House is modifying the bill.
That means the Senate must now approve the modifications in this Sunday bill... or else there will be nothing for the President to sign.
Even if this "deeming" of "passage" was somehow Constitutional, the addition of modifications to the Senate bill by the House, makes it un-signable by the President.
The Constitution requires that the House and Senate pass the SAME, IDENTICAL bill, to be able to send it to the President for his signature.
The House shell-game masters seem to be pretending that if the bill deeming passage, has a set of modifications next to it in the same bill, then somehow the bill isn't modified for signing purposes, but IS modified for House-passage purposes.
Can anybody figure out these bizarre pretzel twists Nancy Pelosi is going through, to put forth this amazing charade?
Sorry, Nancy. If your bill modifies the Senate HC bill, then it's NOT the same bill the Senate passed.
Back to the drawing board, Dems. You just shot yourselves in the foot with this attempted stunt.
Do you suppose that the Dems have not thought about all of the above concerns you raise? Do you suppose they do not have their experts, just as the Republicans have their experts, combing through the bills to make sure that every base is covered? If you thought of the above matters all by yourself, why would you think that people who have been working on this legislation for a year would not have thought about it?
Especially if you make it "simple" by leaving certain things out.
No, not "immediately after".
Try "at the same time".
Meaning, the bill they are passing, is changed by that passage.
So the President can't sign it, until the Senate now approves the newly-changed bill.
Nice try at fibbing about the issue... but no cigar, unlike what Bill said to Monica.
You can attach any bill, to any other bill. However, since the "reform" bill hasn't gone before the Senate, it will have to go through committee approval, and then go the floor. The first bill, will go straight to the President, as the Senate has already passed that.
Listen closely,
The reform bill isn't law when the house passes it, its a new bill, to fix the old bill. No guarantee the Senate will pass the reform bill, but its highly unlikely they won't pass it.
This has been done before, with different bills. For example, the Iraq war spending bill, had other bills attached to it, when it was on the house floor, to get Dems to vote for it. Yes, those bills were directly related, saying, "Yes, we'll give you the money, but we want more regulation in how its spent".
This is the same tactic used by every other congress for the last 100 years, don't make it sound like its something new.
Looks like some like Waxman are now concerned with the legality of Deemed to have passed. So it will be an up and down vote tomorrow. We will see what happens.
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