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Yet Conservatives want the government to interfere when it comes to what a person does in their bedroom or with their body. They want the government to tell a woman that she has to have a baby, even if she is poor, homeless and on crack. After the baby is born, the could care less what happens. If a person has cancer and requires treatment that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them alive, again they could care less. Live and let others die...as long as the other is not a fetus.
Maybe at the next State of the Union, when the republicans will be soooo mad after not gaining the seats they predicted.
Yeah they always think it every time they see him and say it to each other just a matter of time before they cant control themselves anymore and yell it. It want matter they will get even more money from thier supporters but at least they cant lie about it anymore
And who pays for that? Sure, but us paying for emergency care visits is so economical. Let's leave things the way they are.
And what little friend in your head said Democrats are proud of killing millions of unborn?
You do not understand, nor ever will our stand on choice. You think women enjoy or get off on having an abortion? But that's another subject...feel free to start a new thread.
But your post is a lie. No one is told to die because they can't afford healthcare.
As for abortion, there's no right to murder. End of story. Don't want a kid? Don't have sex. The stance of most of the dems on abortion is well documented.
Yet Conservatives want the government to interfere when it comes to what a person does in their bedroom
True conservatives believe that the government just needs to stick to building roads, providing national defense, a transparent judicial system, and sound money, but otherwise staying out of our lives. A government that sticks within these boundaries embodies true freedom.
No conservative wants anyone to die. However, I am sure that most people in America would like to provide everyone in the nation with a brand new BMW 5 series, a private education, a $500,000 home (complete with servants), as well as a country club membership.
The world is a place of limited resources. The United States in not a nation of inexhaustable resources. Therefore, not everyone can have what they want.
Currently, those with acute problems are treated pro bono at ER facilities around the US. Those with chronic conditions, pre-existing conditions, or major medical expenses are the vunerable citizens. Those problems could have been alleviated by very simple measures-
a. elimination of exclusion of pre-existing conditions
b. infinite COBRA
c. allowing insurance to be pruchased across state lines
d. elimination of caps on medical expenditures per lifetime
It did not take a major revision of the healthcare system, but a minor revsion of the insurance industry. Now, the entire US will suffer as a result of this job killing bill. There will be hell to pay in a situation in which we can ill afford more economic insults.
Perhaps, again, you can help me.
1. How will this bill reduce medical expenses by adding 30-40 million patients?
More people in the pool, more choice, more competition, lower costs. More healthy people, less burden on the health system.
2. Will the politicians really cut 500 billion dollars from medicare, risking thier immediate expulsion from office by seniors?
The bill will stop the gov't from paying fees that are charged at 150% over fair market charges. Seems doctors like to rip of the system. That is ending. No one in medicare is going to see their level or quality of coverage drop
3. How will adding this huge buisness expense allow buisness to keep existing employees or hire new ones? The best case scenario is to be able to recoup (possibly) 50% of the additional cost per employee.
Tax incentives. Exchanges will allow more competition and choice and lowered costs.
4. How does shifting patients from the medicare prescription plan back to corporate insurance plans save the corporations money? Again, Catepillar estimates that this measure will cut corporate profits by 20%, forcing them to lay off existing employees and preventing new hires.
Repeat question.
5. Where will the increased providers needed (by adding 30-40million new patients) come from in a sitatuation of declining reimbursement to physicians? A 21% reduction in medicare reimibursement to providers was delayed, but will be instituted. Who is going to work harder for less money?
Decling reimbursements? No...more like getting them to charge rates that equals service provided. Not overcharging services by 100- 150%!
After all the champagne had been consumed and the clean up begins, the reality of this mess is apparent to everyone, except perhaps a liberal.
1. How will this bill reduce medical expenses by adding 30-40 million patients?
More people in the pool, more choice, more competition, lower costs. More healthy people, less burden on the health system.
2. Will the politicians really cut 500 billion dollars from medicare, risking thier immediate expulsion from office by seniors?
The bill will stop the gov't from paying fees that are charged at 150% over fair market charges. Seems doctors like to rip of the system. That is ending. No one in medicare is going to see their level or quality of coverage drop
3. How will adding this huge buisness expense allow buisness to keep existing employees or hire new ones? The best case scenario is to be able to recoup (possibly) 50% of the additional cost per employee.
Tax incentives. Exchanges will allow more competition and choice and lowered costs.
4. How does shifting patients from the medicare prescription plan back to corporate insurance plans save the corporations money? Again, Catepillar estimates that this measure will cut corporate profits by 20%, forcing them to lay off existing employees and preventing new hires.
Repeat question.
5. Where will the increased providers needed (by adding 30-40million new patients) come from in a sitatuation of declining reimbursement to physicians? A 21% reduction in medicare reimibursement to providers was delayed, but will be instituted. Who is going to work harder for less money?
Decling reimbursements? No...more like getting them to charge rates that equals service provided. Not overcharging services by 100- 150%!
Why does the left want to kill unborns and take 500 billion form medicare. Its like stealing from your parents IMO.
The left doesn't "want to" kill unborns. We want a choice. I am a "leftist," at least by the definition of this forum. I have three children. Notice I didn't kill them. Notice, too, that that's what "choice" means. It doesn't mean "kill because it's awesome to do so." If it did, then Bush would have been pro-choice by sending our kids to a useless war...no? And we sure shoot know he isn't pro-choice.
So I'm sorry, but your description is a little lacking. And misleading.
why does the left want the government to decide if a patient can live or die, which is now happening in Europe and happened to our family and we had nothing to say and nothing was asked before they pulled the plug!
Are you so naive that you think you get the treatment you want for free and the Dem. are making your health care like a spa treatment...prepare your self for waiting times, waiting lists to get into a doctor's office, cuts in treatments, etc...and specially taxes be raised and also prizes in stores to go up in order for the businesses to pay for their employees to get health care...how much fun do you have when you pay higher prizes in the stores sooner then later.....or are you gonna blame your self and the Dem...or maybe Bush?
Again you're making assumptions. The government deciding if a patient can live or die? That is not happening in Europe. Some posters have a fairly accurate idea as to how health care in Europe functions. You can't fool everyone all the time.
Would you care to divulge the name of the medication your 79 year old father needs which could only be injected by a certain doctor who is available only every two weeks?
The left doesn't "want to" kill unborns. We want a choice. I am a "leftist," at least by the definition of this forum. I have three children. Notice I didn't kill them. Notice, too, that that's what "choice" means. It doesn't mean "kill because it's awesome to do so." If it did, then Bush would have been pro-choice by sending our kids to a useless war...no? And we sure shoot know he isn't pro-choice.
So I'm sorry, but your description is a little lacking. And misleading.
Poor argument. We don't give others a "choice" to murder people they find inconvenient.
Why does the Right want to kill Americans?
Kill how, you ask? Well, when someone is sick, the insurance company cancels their policy because it becomes "too expensive".....those people then die. Also, the insurance companies have caps. Once you meet that cap...that's it...you're done! Better pray you don't get a catastrophic medical emergency!
People without insurance are more likely to die than people with insurance.
Someone with a "pre-exsisting" condition can't get health insurance and winds up dying because of lack of insurance.
So why would the Right want to PREVENT people from securing health insurance is beyond me!
Too expensive! Of course, because we all can put a price on a human life.
Seems they are more concern about unborn children's lives than the ones already alive and breathing!
why does the left want the right to kill close to 50 million Americans? Why does the left like the genocide of the unborn?
Their too expensive if they live.
How many die because lack of insurance? 50 million have died due to abortion.
Why does the left want to prevent people to live while complaining the right wants people to die?
The left puts a price on human life every time there is an abortion
Seems they are more concerned about killing the unborn than caring for them.
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