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Old 03-30-2010, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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yeah i think this guy thinks people need to be convicted for "looking" scary....i also agree that if there was overwhelming evidence that they were on their way to kill someone for sure like the guys in the group video-tapping what they would do, or if i myself knew one of them and knew personally that they were going to kill a cop i would be against it, but there is a big agenda by the U.S. government to make tea-party, Christians, or anyone who disagrees with the president to look bad so they are staging different events to make those groups stay quite so the truth won't get out because people are waking up!!!
Their was overwhelming evidence, that is why they were arrested This kind of extreme conspiracy Terrorist defending garbage is down right outrageous.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It is unfortunate our soldiers were not offered such protection in Fort Hood.
But according to some "conservatives" around here, simply planning something is not a crime... only when it is executed.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Yeah and gang members don't ever threaten people or cops do they?
The difference here is that this was investigated by the FBI because it was a matter of national security....the group was arrested for conspiracy (among other things), quickly shutting them down. Crimes committed by small gangs are usually handled at the local level until a gang gets large enough to be involved with organized crime and spreads into multiple states. That's when the FBI usually steps in and starts to investigate the gang because they're a crime syndicate at that point. They're aim to shut the gang down by arresting the leaders under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) which takes along time to investigate successfully (sometimes years). Gang or mob leaders are often otherwise difficult to prosecute for crimes because of the way they shield themselves by having gang members under them committ the actual crimes.....power within the gang is layers and layers deep.

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Their was overwhelming evidence, that is why they were arrested This kind of extreme conspiracy Terrorist defending garbage is down right outrageous.

Ok there is evidence right nobody tampered with anything because you were there right...Just believe what you hear from whatever source....I'll think logically about things and decide after they are truly proven to be guilty and not just cuz the media tells me a story
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I wonder when the rightwingoverse will actually stand up and condemn the domestic terrorists in this country when we round 'em up.

You know damn well that if they attacked Americans, they would be first in line to blame Obama too.
Actually, they will call them liberals and try to run with the rhetoric.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Ok there is evidence right nobody tampered with anything because you were there right...Just believe what you hear from whatever source....I'll think logically about things and decide after they are truly proven to be guilty and not just cuz the media tells me a story
Thinking conspiracy theories at every turn isn't think logically.....
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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"The wife of one of the defendants described Hutaree as a small group of patriotic, Christian buddies who were just doing survival training."


"It consisted of a dad and two of his sons and I think just a couple other close friends of theirs," said Kelly Sickles, who husband, Kristopher, was among those charged. "It was supposed to be a Christian group. Christ-like, right, so why would you think that's something wrong with that, right?"


Sickles said she came home Saturday night to find her house in Sandusky, Ohio, in disarray.


Agents seized the guns her husband collected as a hobby and searched for bomb-making materials, she said, but added: "He doesn't even know how to make a bomb. We had no bomb material here."




She said she couldn't believe her 27-year-old husband could be involved in anything violent.


"It was just survival skills," she said. "That's what they were learning. And it's just patriotism. It's in our Constitution."


My Way News - Christian militia accused of plotting to kill cops


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Old 03-30-2010, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Thinking conspiracy theories at every turn isn't think logically.....


the problem is if it's not mainstream then you dismiss it as conspiracy when in reality maybe you are being fooled by the mainstream
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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the problem is if it's not mainstream then you dismiss it as conspiracy when in reality maybe you are being fooled by the mainstream
Not quite, but I do consider idiotic conspiracy theories, just that idiotic conspiracy theories.


BTW, if this was a group of Muslims who took part in a bunch of Military style training, were infiltrated by the FBI and were being accused of plotting to kill a cop, them ambush that cop's funeral in order to kill many more cops in hopes it would spark a revolution to overthrow the Government. Would you be calling them terrorists or would you still be talking about a government conspiracy??
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Tha 6th Bourough
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Not quite, but I do consider idiotic conspiracy theories, just that idiotic conspiracy theories.


BTW, if this was a group of Muslims who took part in a bunch of Military style training, were infiltrated by the FBI and were being accused of plotting to kill a cop, them ambush that cop's funeral in order to kill many more cops in hopes it would spark a revolution to overthrow the Government. Would you be calling them terrorists or would you still be talking about a government conspiracy??

Who said i was for killing cops...my father is a cop..why do u think i question things?...i don't believe what the media says is fact just cuz they say so....but you believe what u want
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