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I think there needs to be some evaluation of such, but the EPA has gone far beyond that. They have become their own legislative branch, dictating what is and isn't without the support to do so.
Or do you not remember DDT?
How about ETS?
And now the ever special Co2.
They are too big, have too much control, too much authority to dictate, regulate, and enforce their will and no controls on the influences they have.
You worry about "big corporations" and all of the evil they produce and yet turn a blind eye to the influence the green movement has had on the EPA?
No amount of freedom is worth giving up on "claims" of disaster and the EPA is the master of "claiming" such without properly supporting it.
So should something like it exist? To a very minimal extent and without the direct authority. It should be just as bureaucratically inefficient for them to dictate as it is other aspects of our government. Unfortunately, there is no check and balance for them and it has become a nest for corruption because of it.
I think it was pretty minimal during the Bush administration and I think that was bad for the country.
And yes, I do worry about corporations being able to stretch or ignore rules and poison the environment. The Green movement has had an effect on the EPA and I don't always agree with them... but, all in all, I think the EPA is on a better track now that what it was during the last admin.
We disagree... I have a feeling that's not going to change.
I think it was pretty minimal during the Bush administration and I think that was bad for the country.
And yes, I do worry about corporations being able to stretch or ignore rules and poison the environment. The Green movement has had an effect on the EPA and I don't always agree with them... but, all in all, I think the EPA is on a better track now that what it was during the last admin.
We disagree... I have a feeling that's not going to change.
Odd that the EPA's encroachment on individual liberty coincides with your increased approval?
Though on this I am certain we will never agree. I do not think liberty is something to be tossed aside based on the position that bad "could" result. It is a sales pitch for bondage.
Odd that the EPA's encroachment on individual liberty coincides with your increased approval?
Though on this I am certain we will never agree. I do not think liberty is something to be tossed aside based on the position that bad "could" result. It is a sales pitch for bondage.
I don't see the EPA taking away liberty... although you apparently do.
So regulating and dictating, fining for refusal to adhere to dictation, or closing a place down because of it isn't limiting liberties?
Take it easy? Are you getting upset or something?
When the regulations are there to stop poisoning for our benefit... when dictating tells someone to stop poisoning for the sake of our health... or closing down an operation that has been warned repeatedly to stop poisoning due to possibly making the local population sick or even killing them... that's not limiting a liberty.
And me saying... "take it easy" is simply a salutation I often use... sort of like 'take care'.... meaning nothing more than... 'take it easy'.
I say there is no "acorn" anything looking over your shoulder and you are trolling the boards. Am I close?
I dont think there is acorn looking over my shoulder either, but I still dont like goverment in charge of most things in my life, and think the goverment both state and federal should be 1% of their current size.
I must be living some sort of sheltered life, outside of 4 years in the military, getting my passport renewed, I can't think of once in nearly sixty years that I have had any contact with a Federal agency or employee, or have I ever noticed anyone in the Federal government telling me how to live my life. So, what are you folks doing to have all this interaction with the Fed?
Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, 29 November 1802
"if we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy."
But what did they know right? When Obama says things like that, it disappoints me as it is an affront to everything we stand for.
Thomas Jefferson?! Come on! If Obama was at the Constitutional Convention, he would have lectured on and on, wagging his finger at the others like they were little children. And then, if someone tried to ask a question, he would hold his hand up, to silence them. Stupid revolutionaries they were. Too bad ObamaCare wasn't there from the beginning!
This is a tricky question, because just look at your many different answers on this subject. Your going to get those who want more big Governement and just as many who oppose Big Government. Your going to get many who want the Government to have a lesser role. There will never be agreement on this manner just take a lookat this forum, no two people will ever agree.
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