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Old 04-04-2010, 07:11 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Hellooooooo?


I think it is well proven WHO has the same tired old deflections and answers.
Yes it is, that would be you
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Epic Fail.

All one really needs to do is contrast and compare.

Every single post is exactly the same.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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BOTH parties talk up small businesses but their policies end up helping large corporations. Of course why wouldn't they? Corporations make the biggest campaign contributions/bribes/whatever.

You can try to blame liberals and say they're the ones "crushing" small businesses but most small businesses are hurting due to lower customer demand. People are out of work and they're trying to spend only on the necessities.

You can try to shout that tax cuts leads to prosperity but we've been consistently cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans and we're still losing jobs to overseas countries.

These corporations could care less about American workers. If they can find the labor cheaper somewhere else, that's where they will move. All the tax cuts in the world won't make up for that.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hoard...ry?id=10250559
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Obama pledged to have the war over by 2009, Are we still on schedule? Its 2010
Obama's Iraq Pledge Sets The Stage - CBS News
If you quit watching the news and learning anything in 2008 you have a problem.
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Got any better ideas of how to fix the massive deficit?
stay on topic
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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At one extreme, ever more dominant Goliaths increasingly lack any real incentive to create new jobs; after all, many can increase their earnings merely by using their power to charge customers more or pay suppliers less. At the other extreme, the people who run our small enterprises enjoy fewer opportunities than in the past to grow their businesses. The Goliaths of today are so big and so adept at protecting their turf that they leave few niches open to exploit.
Who Broke America’s Jobs Machine? - Barry C. Lynn and Phillip Longman
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Old 04-04-2010, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Default Here's the Republican tax policy

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Old 04-04-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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These corporations could care less about American workers. If they can find the labor cheaper somewhere else, that's where they will move. All the tax cuts in the world won't make up for that.
In a global economy you either cut costs or go out of business. They have no choice if they want to remain competitive. US regulations, taxation, unions and many other things make it unprofitable to do business here. Now they are piling on more costs with health care and want to pile even more costs on with Cap and Trade... Reap what you sow.
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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PurpleLove08 let me give you an example from the real world of what US business's face and you tell me what the solution is. I personally know the former owner of a small manufacturing business that makes coal stoves. He recently sold it but that is besides the point and really has nothing to do with what I'm about to explain.

This business employs a about 20 or 30 people that make a decent wage and the make a very good product. A few years back he was approached by Chinese manufacturer that proposed making his product in China and shipping here fully assembled in a box ready for installation cheaper than what he was making them for. He could have closed up shop and ran his business from a recliner without all the hassle that goes along with doing business here and made more profit as well.

To his credit he declined but he also had that option because overseas competition doesn't really exist at the present time in this niche market.

Let's fast forward to today and the new owners who have invested an enormous amount of assets and time into their new business. Let's suppose "Joe Stoves" down the street is approached by the same Chinese company and he takes the offer.

Here's my question, what do you propose the new owners of this company do when they are suddenly being undercut by a known brand that is now manufactured in China and see their business evaporating?
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Old 04-04-2010, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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PurpleLove08 let me give you an example from the real world of what US business's face and you tell me what the solution is. I personally know the former owner of a small manufacturing business that makes coal stoves. He recently sold it but that is besides the point and really has nothing to do with what I'm about to explain.

This business employs a about 20 or 30 people that make a decent wage and the make a very good product. A few years back he was approached by Chinese manufacturer that proposed making his product in China and shipping here fully assembled in a box ready for installation cheaper than what he was making them for. He could have closed up shop and ran his business from a recliner without all the hassle that goes along with doing business here and made more profit as well.

To his credit he declined but he also had that option because overseas competition doesn't really exist at the present time in this niche market.

Let's fast forward to today and the new owners who have invested an enormous amount of assets and time into their new business. Let's suppose "Joe Stoves" down the street is approached by the same Chinese company and he takes the offer.

Here's my question, what do you propose the new owners of this company do when they are suddenly being undercut by a known brand that is now manufactured in China and see their business evaporating?
I'd propose they vote for people who will do away with disastrous trade policies that favor offshoring.
In a perfect world, the Chinese would make the goods their people need, India would make the good their people need, so on and so forth. We'd only trade with companies in the event we can't make the products ourselves.

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In a global economy you either cut costs or go out of business. They have no choice if they want to remain competitive. US regulations, taxation, unions and many other things make it unprofitable to do business here. Now they are piling on more costs with health care and want to pile even more costs on with Cap and Trade... Reap what you sow.
Yeah, those HORRIBLE regulations that prevent companies from treating their employees like complete and utter crap and prevent companies from completely ruining the air and water in this country. I know, how horrible.

Do you want us to start looking like China with polluted rivers and polluted air? I'm not saying U.S. companies don't dump crap in our water but it's not as widespread as in China.

Those horrible unions for giving a voice to the working people of this country, giving them a platform to air grievances and try to work for better wages, better benefits, etc.
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