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Why don't you look into that, and tell us how many poor women qualify, and more importantly, how many don't? There are many, many women who don't have insurance, don't qualify for Medicaid, and do without medical care.
Here you go. One state. One synopsis. While I wish every woman had coverage, i'm not crying when I read statistics like this:
Last month the state of Nebraska denied prenatal Medicaid benefits for more than 1,540 women, including about 840 who are in the country illegally.
Here is the breakdown of the other 709 women denied prenatal care under the new rules, which look at the mother's situation, not that of the unborn child.
Over income: 50
Failure to provide information, income not verified: 415 (includes 137 whose citizenship is not verified).
Sanctioned because they refused to cooperate with Employment First rules or with child support enforcement: 124.
Moved out of the state: 17
Minor teen, whose parents income is now considered: 1
I think you should look into this further. There is no real general rule. Your general rule is a national average. But in the poorest states, the cut-off point for medicaid are much lower. For instance, Alabama's cut-off point is 24% of the national poverty level. If you earn one-fourth of the income that is set as the national povery level, you earn too much to qualify.
I think you should source the 24%. I'm seeing 133% on official Alabama webpages.
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Of course you'd source the lowest common denominator. I expected nothing less. Too bad averages are how resources are doled out.
I think you should source the 24%. I'm seeing 133% on official Alabama webpages.
The 24% is for single adults without children.
Pregnancy moves you into a special group where it's 133%. Current poverty level is just under $11,000/year. 133% moves you to just over $24,000. Before taxes. My statement was that many women who live in poverty don't qualify. And that's upheld by the figures. Your statement was that all pregnant women living in poverty can get medicaid. I pointed out that that is false.
Ever notice that pro abortion people have a maturity level below that of even the fetuses they abort?
They litereally are so self absorbed as to be more childish than children.
Their logic is basically "don't tell me what to do! I should be able to do whatever I want, even kill my child! oh PS, you have to pay for it! TEE HEE!"
Yes, the last line of your post displays a level of maturity that the rest of us can only ever dream of achieving.
Anyone that thinks this was NOT a life just think if your Mom did that to you at that term.
My personal beliefs:
LIFE NOT DEATH.
LOVE NOT HATE.
And you realize that about miscarriages are common, that many fertilized eggs never attach, and that even when they do, more pregnancies end by miscarriage than by abortion? Mother nature aborts far more fetuses than doctors do.
How many of you so-called pro-lifers would want their tax dollars provide prenatal care for a poor woman and lessen the chances of a miscarriage and healthy baby born. Probably not many.
wanta bet!!! I think most of us would want good care for a mother and her unborn baby, regradless of who is paying for it. Don't be so quick to judge on something you have little knowledge of.
Ceece, I do agree with you, if that was the case, I can understand someone totally freaking and not knowing what to do or where to turn.. I just take offense with those who think, because someone is pro choice they also would not want to help a mother and her child regardless of the financual circumstances. In fact, I find that pretty condradictory. If you are pro life, you will do anything to protect the unborn.
I don't think that this was an abortion -- but to miscarry an almost 20 week fetus is not an easy thing. It would feel very much like giving birth and take quite a long time to happen. I can't imagine what that woman/girl was thinking....
I don't think that this was an abortion -- but to miscarry an almost 20 week fetus is not an easy thing. It would feel very much like giving birth and take quite a long time to happen. I can't imagine what that woman/girl was thinking....
I'll bet she was scared to death and panicked.
So would I if I were alone and didn't understand what was happening to me.
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Originally Posted by nmnita
wanta bet!!! I think most of us would want good care for a mother and her unborn baby, regradless of who is paying for it. Don't be so quick to judge on something you have little knowledge of.
Ceece, I do agree with you, if that was the case, I can understand someone totally freaking and not knowing what to do or where to turn.. I just take offense with those who think, because someone is pro choice they also would not want to help a mother and her child regardless of the financual circumstances. In fact, I find that pretty condradictory. If you are pro life, you will do anything to protect the unborn.
Nita
Maybe because so many on "that" side believe in the right to life until birth; then they refer to anyone who gets services as a freeloader and other choice descriptors.
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