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Old 04-27-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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What does the fact she is a liberal have to do with it?

There are nutty people in this world in all political parties.

Are you saying that NO conservative woman wouldn't do something just as crazy?
If you think that then I have some land to sell ya.

Pointless
I really doubt a conservative woman would blame her entire race for something that happened to her.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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I really doubt a conservative woman would blame her entire race for something that happened to her.
I "really doubt" a person with any level of maturity, intelligence, or class would start a thread mocking an irrational woman traumatized by rape in order to make a blanket statement about political ideologies.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I "really doubt" a person with any level of maturity, intelligence, or class would start a thread mocking an irrational woman traumatized by rape in order to make a blanket statement about political ideologies.
So she should have special privileges and be free from criticism, because women need protection right?

Women and children first, eh?

if you believed in equality, you wouldn't have written what you wrote.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Ditto on the republican side.

Wonder why there are only 21% of us who think like liberals and 79% of us think the opposite of liberals?

Easy to see which group has some inner issues.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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So she should have special privileges and be free from criticism, because women need protection right?

Women and children first, eh?

if you believed in equality, you wouldn't have written what you wrote.
Your comment makes absolutely no sense.

Where did I say she should have special privileges? I am calling you out for making a thread trying to align the comments of a rape victim with "liberalism" at large.

This has nothing to do with equality, don't deflect with your nonsensical argument. This has to do with turning someone's trauma into a stupid political talking point. If it was a man who had been raped the scenario would be exactly the same.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Your comment makes absolutely no sense.

Where did I say she should have special privileges? I am calling you out for making a thread trying to align the comments of a rape victim with "liberalism" at large.

This has nothing to do with equality, don't deflect with your nonsensical argument. This has to do with turning someone's trauma into a stupid political talking point. If it was a man who had been raped the scenario would be exactly the same.
Would you ever have said to me that about a man under any circumstance?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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Would you ever have said to me that about a man under any circumstance?
Yes, I would. If a man had been raped and said the same thing, and you used him to try to draw a connection to some hazy political ideology, I would have said the same thing. This, however, is completely irrelevant.

My question is, why are so many of your arguments predicated on hypotheticals, strawmen, and caricatures?

You make thread after thread about "why liberals do this" "why liberals think this" "what liberals will do next" or "why liberalism is a mental disease". None of your threads have any substance whatsoever, and all of them seem to rely on a really vapid understanding of what you perceive to be the opinions of liberals.

The fact of the matter is, although I prefer it to conservative orthodoxy, I quite dislike liberal ideology. I've studied it quite in depth, and I have a pretty firm opinion of what I take to be its failings. You, however, seem to have no interest in nuance or reasonable argumentation.

Here, you use a clearly mentally disturbed rape victim to point out how liberalism is a mental disease, and you have no idea what's wrong with that. If I was like you, I might use this thread as an example of "why conservatism is a mental disease," but I understand that you speak for no one but yourself.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Yes, I would. If a man had been raped and said the same thing, and you used him to try to draw a connection to some hazy political ideology, I would have said the same thing. This, however, is completely irrelevant.

My question is, why are so many of your arguments predicated on hypotheticals, strawmen, and caricatures?

You make thread after thread about "why liberals do this" "why liberals think this" "what liberals will do next" or "why liberalism is a mental disease". None of your threads have any substance whatsoever, and all of them seem to rely on a really vapid understanding of what you perceive to be the opinions of liberals.

The fact of the matter is, although I prefer it to conservative orthodoxy, I quite dislike liberal ideology. I've studied it quite in depth, and I have a pretty firm opinion of what I take to be its failings. You, however, seem to have no interest in nuance or reasonable argumentation.

Here, you use a clearly mentally disturbed rape victim to point out how liberalism is a mental disease, and you have no idea what's wrong with that. If I was like you, I might use this thread as an example of "why conservatism is a mental disease," but I understand that you speak for no one but yourself.

That's odd, because society tends to think male rape is a laughing matter. Especially in prisons. There are lots of jokes about that. How many rape jokes are there about women?
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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That's odd, because society tends to think male rape is a laughing matter. Especially in prisons. There are lots of jokes about that. How many rape jokes are there about women?
And anyone who thinks that male rape in prison is a laughing matter is ignorant and/or deranged. It's not a laughing matter, and I take our terrible prison system pretty seriously. Do you disagree?

Does the ignorance of others justify your comments?

Your argument is so weak, keep backpeddling.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:44 PM
 
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Basically I call you out for making a stupid thread mocking a woman's rape in order to disparage a political ideology, and the best rebuttal you can fashion is to point out that some people make jokes about men being raped in prison.

Talk about a pitiful, irrelevant deflection. I'll take that as a concession.
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