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Old 07-27-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Another Environmental Scientist Bails on Man-Made Global Warming | MND: Your Daily Dose of Counter-Theory

Some interesting discussion on the peer pressure associated with the AGW cult.
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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From your link:

“When I tell environmental activists that global warming is not something to be concerned about, they attack me — they shun me, they do not allow me to have my materials published in their magazines,” Rancourt explained to Climate Depot (http://allpainnogain.cfact.org/default.asp - broken link).

This censorship is all part of the AGW conspiracy that Mann, et al, say does not exist
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:24 PM
 
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“When I tell environmental activists that global warming is not something to be concerned about, they attack me — they shun me, they do not allow me to have my materials published in their magazines,” Rancourt explained to Climate Depot (http://allpainnogain.cfact.org/default.asp - broken link).

This censorship is all part of the AGW conspiracy that Mann, et al, say does not exist
/sarcasm on

What do you mean! You are a denier! You hate the planet and work for big oil! We don't have to listen to you because the discussion is over and all you want to do is kill the planet! What facts? The only fact is that you are trying to kill the planet and won't let real science take place! Who cares about those little details, they don't change the bigger picture and that picture is that you are killing the planet! What? That statistic is wrong? Well, it isn't about the facts, it is about saving the planet! Its about our view of helping the planet, this isn't an issue about facts, its an issue of saving the planet! Silly denier!

/sarcasm off

That about sums up their MO. *chuckle*
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Old 07-27-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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This info is from a self-described anarchist and left-wing "activist" who has a history of unstable behaviour.

Maybe he's correct, but it's an interesting choice to use to support your views. Using that link as 'proof' is akin to getting unbiased "news" from Cosmopolitan Magazine.
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Old 07-27-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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This info is from a self-described anarchist and left-wing "activist" who has a history of unstable behaviour.
I spent a lot of time with communists and all of them believed in the SGW scam and so did the few anarchists in our group too
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Old 07-27-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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Do any of you anti-global warming worshippers even read or research your subject before pasting the same old platitudes?

This guy was a professor of physics. His research had nothing to do with climate.

He was a radical, radical leftist who was kicked out of academia for altering his classes to teach students that profit is evil and force them into a social activist worldview.

He also denied the ozone hole, which did have proven impact on human health.

I realize this is a political issue, but at least know when you're being fed propaganda to serve the far right political agenda and study the science from many fields and perspectives. If you can't even analyze a simple article, how can we trust that you have independently analyzed the research you so passionately defend?
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:01 PM
 
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Another Environmental Scientist Bails on Man-Made Global Warming | MND: Your Daily Dose of Counter-Theory

Some interesting discussion on the peer pressure associated with the AGW cult.

Every religion will have its times of doubt and desertion of the faith. As long as there is an Al Gore, there will always be the cult of global warming.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:22 PM
 
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Do any of you anti-global warming worshippers even read or research your subject before pasting the same old platitudes?

This guy was a professor of physics. His research had nothing to do with climate.

He was a radical, radical leftist who was kicked out of academia for altering his classes to teach students that profit is evil and force them into a social activist worldview.

He also denied the ozone hole, which did have proven impact on human health.

I realize this is a political issue, but at least know when you're being fed propaganda to serve the far right political agenda and study the science from many fields and perspectives. If you can't even analyze a simple article, how can we trust that you have independently analyzed the research you so passionately defend?
I don't think anyone is really relying on it as evidence of any conclusion other than one nut fell off of the big pile of nuts for whatever reason. In the end, they are all nuts. /shrug

Its not like opinion means anything in the realm of science.... oh wait... I guess consensus is a part of your groups scientific method (tm).
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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/sarcasm on

What do you mean! You are a denier! You hate the planet and work for big oil! We don't have to listen to you because the discussion is over and all you want to do is kill the planet! What facts? The only fact is that you are trying to kill the planet and won't let real science take place! Who cares about those little details, they don't change the bigger picture and that picture is that you are killing the planet! What? That statistic is wrong? Well, it isn't about the facts, it is about saving the planet! Its about our view of helping the planet, this isn't an issue about facts, its an issue of saving the planet! Silly denier!

/sarcasm off

That about sums up their MO. *chuckle*
I didn't take a position either way. I was waiting for the science to surface to the top from both sides. What I saw was science countered with junk science countered with half truths and clearly both sides were attempting to steer, but neither empowered with the whole truth.

So... why are both sides fearing truth? Now that we've endured this sham of debate as long as we have, perhaps the scientists can get back to working on scientific evidence minus the drama of hollywood and conservative just say no to everything?
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