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Old 05-12-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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IMHO this type of legalized discrimination is being passed by the horde of predominantly white seniors terrified of living in a place where the young are not theirs and of a different culture (predominantly Catholic, not Protestant) and speak a different language. Most of the seniors I know, and as a person approaching seniorhood, I know quite a few, seem to want to recreate their youth when they retire.

This is a result of ageism with the elderly wielding the money club. Unfortunately these measures are destructive to both the elderly and the younger, partially immigrant, generation.
The part I highlighted in bold describe the ethnic classes. Funny how you tried to turn it around. Taking away "ethnic classes" and making all students attend the same classes is far from "legalized discrimination"
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:44 AM
 
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Here's one of the big red flags:

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She has no intention of ending the program, which offers courses from elementary school through high school in topics such as literature, history and social justice, with an emphasis on Latino authors and history. About 3% of the district's 55,000 students are enrolled in such classes.
You'll find the same term used by many of the usual suspects... ACORN type organizations, SEIU and many other far left organizations.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Here's one of the big red flags:



You'll find the same term used by many of the usual suspects... ACORN type organizations, SEIU and many other far left organizations.
I wonder if the Latino authors and history include Fidel Castro and Che'?
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:52 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Let's not forget what should be taught:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
leftist ideologues have tossed those ideals in the trash long ago in exchange for loads of 'celebrate our differences' bullsheit.

these buffoons would be calling MLK a nazi fascist if he were around today.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Really? One of the things that makes people more ready to enter the workforce and college is the ability to think critically, understand other cultures, get along with other people, have the social skills to get along with others and the communication skills to be productive in the work/ university environment.
You are taking a very racist view. You do not understand another individual by stereotyping them by their race which is exactly what you're suggesting be done.

You size up another person by judging that person on their character.

Only racists would want to try to look at someone's racial or ethnic background and think they understand someone or use race aka ethnicity as as deciding factor in getting along with someone.

Why can't you just see Person A or Person B as the individuals they are?
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Wrong!! Kids should be taught about the importance of an individual. They should be taught what Martin Luther King tried to teach - and that is that the color of one's skin is not important at all. It's what is inside the individual.

All this pigeonholing of people by skin color, ethnic ancestry and everything has to go. You are not about the accomplishments of some race or other culture, you are about your own accomplishments.
So, why is the history of ancient Greece, Rome, etc. still considered acceptable educational material?
So kids really don't need to know about Alexander the Great or who built the pyramids? How about the Maya or the Aztecs? And, they surely don't need to know about Christopher Columbus or Juan de Onate. Neither of them were Americans.
How about the great Irish potato famine? Is that out now too? And the Crusades?


Where do we draw the line?
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Really? One of the things that makes people more ready to enter the workforce and college is the ability to think critically, understand other cultures, get along with other people, have the social skills to get along with others and the communication skills to be productive in the work/ university environment.

The inclusion of classes about African American History, or East Asian Studies, or Latin Studies only serve to expand a students intellectual horizons, and assist with the development of critical thinking skills, and even make them more well-rounded and interesting to talk to!

It's also how we don't raise a generation of jingoistic ignoramuses such as yourself who are so culturally obtuse that they can't see the perspective of any American who doesn't have white skin.

My high school in Connecticut included these types of classes-- and not at all at the expense of the basics. I graduated college, started my own business and earn an above-average living. Due to that background (which included studying cultures other than my own) I comfortably run my business internationally, deal with multiple cultures and profit from it. (I also make friends all over the world, who don't consider me the ugly American.)

Good luck with your very egocentric and ethnocentric world view.
Thank you.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:03 AM
 
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So, why is the history of ancient Greece, Rome, etc. still considered acceptable educational material?
So kids really don't need to know about Alexander the Great or who built the pyramids? How about the Maya or the Aztecs? And, they surely don't need to know about Christopher Columbus or Juan de Onate. Neither of them were Americans.
How about the great Irish potato famine? Is that out now too? And the Crusades?


Where do we draw the line?
History isn't ethnic studies. No one is suggesting that history be dropped.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:09 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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You are taking a very racist view. You do not understand another individual by stereotyping them by their race which is exactly what you're suggesting be done.

You size up another person by judging that person on their character.

Only racists would want to try to look at someone's racial or ethnic background and think they understand someone or use race aka ethnicity as as deciding factor in getting along with someone.

Why can't you just see Person A or Person B as the individuals they are?
So by your argument any type of social studies are racist... Because any study of a group would be based at least partially on what you call stereotypes.

And of course there are thousands of complex factors in understanding individuals-- A good curriculum stress that. Likewise, however, race, ethnicity, religion, all have a strong influence on the individual... And understanding these factors is important-- Instead of pretending that everyone is the same and using a Caucasian-only perspective, understanding cultural background (and the influence it has on human behavior-- but not in isolation of other factors like biology and health) really does help us understand people better...

BTW, your Rush Limbaughesque attempts to paint me as a racist are offensive and sad. It's a true "hail mary" desperation play when you don't have any substantive arguments and only want to try to discredit mine with inflammatory rhetoric.

Try thinking for yourself and come up with something besides baseless and incorrect name calling.
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Here's one of the big red flags:



You'll find the same term used by many of the usual suspects... ACORN type organizations, SEIU and many other far left organizations.
Yes, like all those 'far left' Christians - the Methodists, the Catholics....
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