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Old 05-17-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Arizona's 1070 has emboldened them...they're all coming out of the woodwork now...
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Senior Augustine Ortiz said he was in English class one day late last week, and his teacher began the class with a discussion of the changes to immigration enforcement law in Arizona.

The new law has created a firestorm of controversy in recent weeks, sparking a series of protests and plans for legal challenges. Ortiz, who was wearing a jersey from a Mexican soccer team, said the teacher told him to sit in the front row.

She proceeded to single him out repeatedly, Ortiz said, pointing at him as she made comments like, “The Mexicans with their attitudes are the racist ones.”

Continuing to point at Ortiz, she allegedly told the class that Mexicans always “expect handouts” and “soon it's going to be the United States of Mexico,”
Teacher's alleged remarks spur removal
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Wow, I knew that a lot of people held those types of sentiments, but usually they only actually say it on the internet and at their rallies. It bothers me that it is becoming socially acceptable again to say racist things like this. It feels like we're moving backwards as a society.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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Frankly, there are ways to approach the same pedagogical point of view, if one must, without being crassly racist and abusive. From what I am reading the suspension was more than appropriate. Perhaps a little counseling might be in order as well.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Well, everything she said is true but she should not have used a student in eh class as an example. Its always best to stick to the facts when you are trying to make a point. Appeals to emotion only work on the weak-minded (Like Jedi mind tricks )
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Wow, I knew that a lot of people held those types of sentiments, but usually they only actually say it on the internet and at their rallies. It bothers me that it is becoming socially acceptable again to say racist things like this. It feels like we're moving backwards as a society.
Bothers me too..

Arizona's new law has given many a free pass to express their racism under the guise of caring about the problem of illegal immigration.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Bothers me too..

Arizona's new law has given many a free pass to express their racism under the guise of caring about the problem of illegal immigration.
Sort of like the folks on the other side who use phrases like:
Illegals only do jobs that Americans are to lazy to do.
or the ever popular
Who will clean your houses or cut your grass if we deport the illegals.
Yes there are racists on both sides not to mention utter idiots.
That Teacher was an idiot. Her job is to teach not push her personal views no matter how justified she may have felt.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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When does Jim Crow officially start in Aribama?
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:12 PM
 
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Sort of like the folks on the other side who use phrases like:
Illegals only do jobs that Americans are to lazy to do.
or the ever popular
Who will clean your houses or cut your grass if we deport the illegals.
Yes there are racists on both sides not to mention utter idiots.
How are those racist statements?
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Ok hold on here. Why is it because you are against illegals are you automatically a racist? Where is the outrage when liberal teachers spew their crap at our kids? Was she right in singling out the kid? No, but she is entitled to her opinion.

It is very easy for people to pass judgment when you don't deal with illegals on a daily bases.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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Strange how everyone has already decided that this teacher has done this thing based on the comments of two students. While it might be true that the teacher did indeed do these things, has anyone stopped to consider that maybe these students had a grudge and figured out a way to take that grudge out on the teacher using the Arizona law as a way to strengthen their case?
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