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Old 05-17-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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Halting all immigration would include things like international adoptions, family reunifications, legitimate political refugees, visiting scholars, and so on.

But it's a perfectly fair question; the immigration system itself is one hell of a mess. It is a mishmash of overlapping priorities and regulations and bureaucrats. It certainly needs an overhaul.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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What a ridiculous idea.

This country was founded on immigration.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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What would stopping legal immigration do to help solve the illegal immigration problem? Should we stop kids from going to school until we fix education? The answers are nothing and not at all.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Stop illegal immigration? Yes. That's a rhetorical question but figure I'd state it.

Stop legal immigration? No. One of the foundations of this nation is the immigrant and it would be ironic to stop it not to mention I am unaware of how legal immigration is harming this country.

Add criteria (to those that already exist) that qualifies/disqualifies immigration applicants? Yes. I don't think it is necessary to accept all who come to the door. However, I don't think that the bar should be set so high that only the wealthy or those with vital skills would be allowed to immigrate. After all, if they were already wealthy or had vital skills, why would they immigrate here? Also, there are a lot of people (such as myself) who came here with nothing and made something of themselves.

Add a quota that limits the number of immigrants per year? Yes. Integration and assimilation take time.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Aside from very wealthy individuals or those with vital skills which are in shortage and will contribute to our society. Just seems that with so many unemployed, so many immigrants who have zero loyalty to this nation as well as the added stress they put on our deteriorating infrastructure that it makes no sense to 'allow more people to jump onto our sinking ship' as another poster here so fittingly put it.
In my opinion while we are a "nation of immigrants" we need to take a pause and let things balance out for a while as we have many times in the past.

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Illegal immigration should be stopped completely, but not legal immigration. For example, foreign students attending US universities are legal aliens. Then think about foreign companies (oil, gold, etc.) who operate in the US; these people are legal aliens too. Foreign tourists visiting the US are legal aliens, Canadians visiting the US are legal aliens. How about foreign pilots and crews flying commercial aircraft around the US? These are legal aliens.

You also have to consider the people who want to become legal residents, too. Some of them may be soldiers' wives, their kids born overseas, and such. Some of these people have to wait from one to several years in order to legally immigrate to the US. Also, there are certain work skills that new generations of Americans have no idea about, and US companies, even governments (Federal, State) often have to recruit the right people to do the work. These jobs could be from scientists to carpenters.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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Halting all immigration would include things like international adoptions, family reunifications, legitimate political refugees, visiting scholars, and so on.

But it's a perfectly fair question; the immigration system itself is one hell of a mess. It is a mishmash of overlapping priorities and regulations and bureaucrats. It certainly needs an overhaul.
You hit a home run with this comment. But, I fear, there is too much ideology and vested interests - on both sides - to make it happen.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:28 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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No we should not halt immigration. We should raise the bar though.
Where should the bar be? Require that all immigrants be smarter than the average American?
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Old 05-18-2010, 07:48 AM
 
Location: 53179
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What a ridiculous idea.

This country was founded on immigration.
It is not the legal immigrants that cause any problems. And there are tons of lazy, give me a hand-out, don't want to work, don't care about going to school, don't want to vote, types in this country. They are the real burden on society.

I'm not a US- citizen. I moved to the US in October 1999, as an Army wife. I started to work 2 weeks after I arrived.
This year I'm going back to school and I want to Major in Nursing or Occupational therapist.
I am also applying for my citizen ship this fall. I have been studying the Naturalization test and I'm ready. It will cost me a total of $670.
I can't Waite!
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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The US grew and became what it is because of immigration, European immigration. And generally we don't need to ask someone of European descent what his origins are because his culture is American. English, Irish, Russians, Serbs, and all the rest come here and become assimilated. That's what matters. This isn't an economic issue. It's a cultural issue. It's about whether America will remain America.

There are settlements in the Southwest where the ancestors of those living there came to what is now America centuries ago. But they still speak Spanish as their first language. They can't, they won't assimilate. They're not part of our culture. Spaniards come here and assimilate easily. But the mestizos refuse. They wish the economic benefits; but they despise our nation.

In all the world there is only one ethnic group, apart from Europeans, who come here, sadly not often anymore, and work hard to assimilate, to be real Americans. That ethnic group is the Japanese. None of the other groups from Asia does. No group from anywhere does this. So let's do the obvious. let's limit immigration, now and forever, to people of European and Japanese descent.
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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The US grew and became what it is because of immigration, European immigration. And generally we don't need to ask someone of European descent what his origins are because his culture is American. English, Irish, Russians, Serbs, and all the rest come here and become assimilated. That's what matters. This isn't an economic issue. It's a cultural issue. It's about whether America will remain America.

There are settlements in the Southwest where the ancestors of those living there came to what is now America centuries ago. But they still speak Spanish as their first language. They can't, they won't assimilate. They're not part of our culture. Spaniards come here and assimilate easily. But the mestizos refuse. They wish the economic benefits; but they despise our nation.

In all the world there is only one ethnic group, apart from Europeans, who come here, sadly not often anymore, and work hard to assimilate, to be real Americans. That ethnic group is the Japanese. None of the other groups from Asia does. No group from anywhere does this. So let's do the obvious. let's limit immigration, now and forever, to people of European and Japanese descent.

I assume this entire speech was satire.
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