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I will repeat,
"In God WE!!!! Trust"
Have you ever heard that phrase?
Go back and look at your post regarding the Liberty University guests on Beck's show and your two peculiar claims re the Washington Monument, and my reply. This ^ post is not relevant to them.
I didn't rep you.
Maybe the person who did will come forward because it wasn't me.
I don't do things like that to people.
Oh -- okay, mag32gie. Im sorry. Thanks for letting me know, I'll erase it.
(I dont do things like that either, I think it's sneaky and creepy!)
edit -- mag32gie, I have to correct my own misstatement. The Washington Monument stairs are closed, but they have been closed since the 1970s, "in large part because too many memorial stones were damaged by stone-chipping vandals." The stones were contributed by a number of groups; not all have Bible verses on them.
(^ details what's on the stones; also some information regarding G Washington there too.)
So if the implication on beck's show was that Obama had the stairs closed so unsuspecting Amurricans wouldnt be influenced by scripture placed there by the Founding Fathers, he was... misleading you
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Oh -- okay, mag32gie. Im sorry. Thanks for letting me know, I'll erase it.
(I dont do things like that either, I think it's sneaky and creepy!)
edit -- mag32gie, I have to correct my own misstatement. The Washington Monument stairs are closed, but they have been closed since the 1970s, "in large part because too many memorial stones were damaged by stone-chipping vandals." The stones were contributed by a number of groups; not all have Bible verses on them.
(^ details what's on the stones; also some information regarding G Washington there too.)
So if the implication on beck's show was that Obama had the stairs closed so unsuspecting Amurricans wouldnt be influenced by scripture placed there by the Founding Fathers, he was... misleading you
I wasn't talking about Obama,
I am angry because so many are sweeping the faith of Christians under the carpet.
I don't want to say "Founding Fathers" because I get sick of hearing that too but I am always interested to know when a person believed and acted on scripture.
I would love to walk up those stairs and read.
Beck said they were closed due to heart attacks.
Thanks for the rep and I gave you one too because you are just fighting for what you believe in too.
I remember when they closed those stairs. It was a very strenuous climb - and people were collapsing - some dying - especially during the summer months.
That is why Obama wants to remake the Constitution to fit his vision of the 21st century. He's leading us INTO another dark age.
Yup, this is the problem with modern day thinking. People have this idea that things change over time. The laws of the universe still stay the same, sure we have more technology but we are still the same human beings that have walked this earth for thousands of years. I usually compare this to sports (specifically football) each year plays get more and more complicated and new formations come out. Does this mean the same basic fundamentals still don't apply to when the game was first invented? Of course not, in fact the most successful college coaches are ones that preach fundamentals and spend entire practices working on form tackling, shedding blocks, etc. The best coaches know that you have to have the fundamentals down before you can learn any plays.
This is the same thing with business and our economy. In the 1920's everyone preached we were in a "new era" because they were smarter. Well just because we had more technology doesn't mean that valuations of companies still doesnt apply. So as the stock market continually outpaced the valuation of companies people insisted it was a new era. Then they were brought back to reality with the 1929 crash. This same thing happened in the 1990's. Everyone thought it was a new era. Well, we now had more technology but the basic business fundamentals still applied. You can't continually expect the stock market to go up when it continually outpaces what the businesses are actually worth. Eventually it will correct itself (the fundamentals of hundreds of years of history still apply). This same thing happened in the real estate market (2000's). We were in a new era, everybody could buy a house without even putting anything down. The government won't let housing prices fall, we could never go into another depression because we are so smart and the gov't won't let us. Well the basic fundamentals still apply. When you spend more than you make you can only survive for so long before things come crashing down, and if the population as a whole does this then the entire economy will come crashing down to fix itself. The fundamentals are still the same, and we can't prevent a depression. What we can do is bail everybody out, but this will just lead to inflation (much higher than the 1970's inflation) because you have to print money in order to make up for the debt accumulated. The recession is the correction, the boom was the problem because prices outpaced the actual values of houses and businesses (stocks). This is what most people don't get.
Now, the same thing still applies to gov't. The constitution was the basic foundation, and just because we have more technology doesn't mean the constitution doesn't matter. Just because more people live here doesn't mean the basic foundation of the constitution should be changed. It's complete nonsense and history has shown time and time and time and time again that every time people think it's a "new era," they get brought down to reality. Preaching that it's a "new era," in order to change the constitution is just a great way for them to take away the freedoms and the country our founding fathers wanted.
In many ways that's already occurred. There is no such thing as home ownership in this country. Even if you pay cash for a house you still have to pay rent to the gov't every yr in property taxes, and if you don't they can take your house. Your individual life is impeded every time you send your tax forms into the IRS because of all the information you must give. The IRS is completely unnecessary if we had a basic consumption tax. Then you would just be taxed every time you bought something and there would be no need for the IRS whatsoever. Anyway, the basic point is government has gotten much bigger than it was intended to get. The federal governments main job is to protect the borders and national defense (maybe infrastructure as well) but everything else is supposed to be left to the states. This way we have competing states, and if you don't like the tax code just move to the next state. This is the best system because it creates competition (like businesses in a free market). What we have now is basically a dictatorship. There is no escaping the federal gov't, even if you leave the US they have ways of making sure they still get taxes from you.
The average person doesn't even see the US as a republic anymore, they see it as a democracy. The founding fathers didn't believe in democracy. One of them actually said (can't remember who) that, "democracy is mob rule, 51% of the population can imprison 49% of the population." They wanted a republic with competing states, so the states had to fight for people to come and inhabit their land. If their tax codes weren't consumer or business friendly then people could leave to another state, resulting in the initial state having to lower taxes in order to get people to come to their state. It's just like how the free market drives down consumer good prices, same principle.
They also didn't believe in the ability to print money. They knew it would lead to inflation and demoralize peoples savings that they worked hard for. The poor, and middle class are going to be completely screwed from these bailouts. Over the next few years we are going to see inflation unprecedented in our countries history (inflation we haven't seen since the civil war). If you look at the facts, the amount of debt consumers have, the debt/GDP (which is well over 100% when you include Fannie and Freddie debt that the gov't has assumed) that the gov't has you will realize that it is a real possibility. The only argument I hear to this is that it won't happen because we are the US. Well was Citigroup unable to fail because they were the biggest bank in the world? Was Germany too big to have hyperinflation during the 1920's? The scariest thing about this is history has shown that as economies go down, everybody looks to the gov't for help. You look at Germany during the 1920's and that's how Hitler came about, he promised to get them out of their depression. I'm not saying that would happen here, but people need to know that's what happens when times are bad, so that if things ever got that bad here they know what not to do. And contrary to popular belief, we can't balance the budget. If the gov't cut every program in existence except medicare, medicaid, and social security...they don't have enough tax revenues to even make those payments. The scary thing (which Ben Bernanke touched on a month or so ago) is that as inflation increases, so do the payouts on these three programs. So we can't even print our way out of this mess without drastic cuts in those three programs. About a month ago Ben Bernanke warned Washington that they needed to get fiscal responsibilty back before any type of inflation begins to show.
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Thanks, that was nice of you
