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Old 05-29-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Now, we all know how the Left and the media perpetuates the manufactured narrative of a "split" or "civil war" within the republican party, but as usual, they have it wrong. Based on the recent primaries, it appears the democrats and their liberal segment of the party are fighting for control.

Bill Clinton rips left in Arkansas race - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com

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Using unusually vivid language to describe the threat against Sen. Blanche Lincoln, Clinton urged the voters who nurtured his career to resist outside forces bent on making an example out of the two-term Democratic incumbent.

He pounded the podium with Lincoln at his side, warning that national liberal and labor groups wanted to make her a “poster child” in the June 8 Senate run-off to send a message about what happens to Democrats who don’t toe the party line.
Millions of dollars have flowed from outside interest groups into Halter's campaign coffers.

He was able to keep her under 50% and force a run-off, where the Left is hoping to prove a point by her defeat.

Other examples of the civil war: Specter getting tossed, CO Senate primary, Mollohan in WV, HW special election.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Watch Biden.

Clinton got an automatic renomination, but Carter did not. Like Carter, Obama won't get an automatic renomination either. Keep an eye on Biden, and if he starts distancing himself from Obama around this time next year, he's gonna make another run for the presidency.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:39 AM
 
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I hope Obama gets the boot.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Watch Biden.

Clinton got an automatic renomination, but Carter did not. Like Carter, Obama won't get an automatic renomination either. Keep an eye on Biden, and if he starts distancing himself from Obama around this time next year, he's gonna make another run for the presidency.
I'm thinking Hillary might take front and center. She seems to be distancing herself and is in the background as Obama makes his international trips doing the job of Sect'y of State himself.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Now, we all know how the Left and the media perpetuates the manufactured narrative of a "split" or "civil war" within the republican party, but as usual, they have it wrong. Based on the recent primaries, it appears the democrats and their liberal segment of the party are fighting for control.

Bill Clinton rips left in Arkansas race - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com



Millions of dollars have flowed from outside interest groups into Halter's campaign coffers.

He was able to keep her under 50% and force a run-off, where the Left is hoping to prove a point by her defeat.

Other examples of the civil war: Specter getting tossed, CO Senate primary, Mollohan in WV, HW special election.
A Democrat that looks like, talks like, acts like and VOTES like a Republican does not do us any good. I'd rather have a Republican than a Democrat that acts like a Republican. As for Specter, good riddance. Nobody I know of wanted him to stay around anyway. The only reason he tried to hijack the Democrat Party was because the Republicans were about to toss him- not because he had a fundamental change of heart towards liberalism. I am NOT a Democrat. I am a LIBERAL and the Democrat Party is only a vehicle to egt to the ultimate goal of liberalism. The party is not an end unto itself. Therefore if members of the Democrat Party are not helping us get to the goal of liberalism, they don't do us any good. That does not mean I have agree with them 100% of the time to support them but we do have to agree on most of the fundamental items. I do not agree with my Congressman David Scott all the time- in fact I was quite unhappy with his votes for the big banks on the Bankruptcy Deform Act but I agree with him enough on the fundamentals that I can support him.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Watch Biden.

Clinton got an automatic renomination, but Carter did not. Like Carter, Obama won't get an automatic renomination either. Keep an eye on Biden, and if he starts distancing himself from Obama around this time next year, he's gonna make another run for the presidency.
Wishful thinking. Obama will be around for 6 more years. You guys might as well get used to that. Obama is not like Carter in any way. Carter was an incompetent bumbling fool. Obama is not.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: MD
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Now, we all know how the Left and the media perpetuates the manufactured narrative of a "split" or "civil war" within the republican party, but as usual, they have it wrong. Based on the recent primaries, it appears the democrats and their liberal segment of the party are fighting for control.

Bill Clinton rips left in Arkansas race - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com



Millions of dollars have flowed from outside interest groups into Halter's campaign coffers.

He was able to keep her under 50% and force a run-off, where the Left is hoping to prove a point by her defeat.

Other examples of the civil war: Specter getting tossed, CO Senate primary, Mollohan in WV, HW special election.
You bring up a good point. I wouldn't say the media is wrong. Far from it, actually because this definitely is occurring in the GOP, no doubt. But it does seem to be happening increasingly in the Democratic Party as well. I think it's mostly an anti-incumbent attitude, and the anti-establishment candidates that are challenging the incumbents tend to be more towards the fringes of their party.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Watch Biden.

Clinton got an automatic renomination, but Carter did not. Like Carter, Obama won't get an automatic renomination either. Keep an eye on Biden, and if he starts distancing himself from Obama around this time next year, he's gonna make another run for the presidency.
Hillary. If things a looking bad, if the democrats have big losses in Nov.
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Aloha, Oregon
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Sanrene,

You are too funny, just wait for everyone from the Republic party to be asked if they agree with Rand Paul's views on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when they run for election/reelection. Watch them scamper!!
Go Halter!!!
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You bring up a good point. I wouldn't say the media is wrong. Far from it, actually because this definitely is occurring in the GOP, no doubt. But it does seem to be happening increasingly in the Democratic Party as well. I think it's mostly an anti-incumbent attitude, and the anti-establishment candidates that are challenging the incumbents tend to be more towards the fringes of their party.
See, that's the other narrative that the media and the dems would like you to believe - it's all anti-incumbent - which is not true.
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