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This. By God, this. This is what it's all about. I don't really have a problem with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" part, as it's really nobody's business what goes on in someone's bedroom. What I have a problem with, is that if someone IS found out to be gay, they're forcibly ejected from the military. That is wrong, and there is pretty much no defense for it.
----if someone IS found out to be gay--
What ratings in the military has the job duties of survielance on gays ?
I'll bet most who got booted under DADT didn't because someone squeeled on them.
Most got booted because thgey wanted to puiblicly announce to the world they were gay.
I think knowing what gays have done and are trying to do that there is an outstanding chance that once they get dadt done away with they will then go after DOMA. Am I wrong?
"Well, if you want to go that route...the same logic could be applied to gays. Maybe they should just get over it as well. "Who cares if they complain? Let them complain." Heck, that argument could work both ways. Oh wait...but me saying that would make ME a bigot..right? And what exactly does that make you? "
read my previous posts....I have made valid points. Just because they dont coincide with what you think doesnt make them meaningless and pointless.
That's not a valid point. So they should just accept being systematically discriminated against?
Oh wait, it might offend someone so we can't end systematic discrimination because some God-freak might not approve.
What ratings in the military has the job duties of survielance on gays ?
I'll bet most who got booted under DADT didn't because someone squeeled on them.
Most got booted because thgey wanted to puiblicly announce to the world they were gay.
Public announcements are so " trendy"
And what's your point? What does it matter if someone "squealed" (Firefox has a spell checker, look in to it) on them, or they shouted it from the rooftops?
I think knowing what gays have done and are trying to do that there is an outstanding chance that once they get dadt done away with they will then go after DOMA. Am I wrong?
Gay peopl ehave been trying to get DOMA repealed for a long time now. It's not a matter of "let's do this, and then this", it's "Let's get all these discrimatory acts against gays repealed"
What ratings in the military has the job duties of survielance on gays ?
I'll bet most who got booted under DADT didn't because someone squeeled on them.
Most got booted because thgey wanted to puiblicly announce to the world they were gay.
Public announcements are so " trendy"
Its been a bit of both. Some people have been thrown out through a third party revealing it. Going through e-mails, listening in on phone conversations. Others have come out and said they were Gay. regardless no one should be kicked out of the Military just because they are found out to be Gay, whether they say it themselves or someone else tells on them, its absurd. The policy is Don't Ask Don't Tell, but how many people do you think are kicked out for asking??
Its been a bit of both. Some people have been thrown out through a third party revealing it. Going through e-mails, listening in on phone conversations. Others have come out and said they were Gay. regardless no one should be kicked out of the Military just because they are found out to be Gay, whether they say it themselves or someone else tells on them, its absurd. The policy is Don't Ask Don't Tell, but how many people do you think are kicked out for asking??
The way I understand it, the "don't ask" prohibition applies to when a person is first being interviewed and applies to the official questions and interview process. If a person of equal status later on asks someone about their sexual orientation, the question can be ignored or say it's none of your business. If it is asked by a someone of superior rank.....well, I don't know about that situation but the person being asked can always refer to the DADT policy.
the person being asked can always refer to the DADT policy.
"If I ever did answer the questions, you know, even to exonerate myself, that would mean that it was okay for them to have been asked in the first place. And it isn't."
The way I understand it, the "don't ask" prohibition applies to when a person is first being interviewed and applies to the official questions and interview process. If a person of equal status later on asks someone about their sexual orientation, the question can be ignored or say it's none of your business. If it is asked by a someone of superior rank.....well, I don't know about that situation but the person being asked can always refer to the DADT policy.
I think that is true, but lets say someone asks, and someone who is gay answers that question honestly. The person who asked the question does not get kicked out, the person who answered the question does.
Regardless, its time for this policy to end. Its long past due.
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Oh wait...but me saying that would make ME a bigot..right? And what exactly does that make you? 
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