Protesters dangling off of the St. Johns Bridge (Portland, Green: prices, military)

[VTHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

Yes, and if they are blocking a ship, the Coast Guard will remove them forcibly. They know it and just think that will delay the ship and get them attention. Both are true, but the delay won't have any effect on the Shell work in Alaska. Like in Seattle, they will simply leave earlier to make up the time.

I worked with the Coast Guard for a year and a half: I remembered that blockades don't have to be aggressive but can also be neutral.

[clearwater66]

The greater attention is on the issue of earth/life destroying, sociopathic, greedy corporate behavior.

Every delay costs Shell big bucks and therefore every minute they are up there is a sacred reminder of what some of us are here to accomplish.

[eric351982]

Originally Posted by 58rhodes

I sure hope that none of these protesters drive a petro vehicle or own any petroleum based products

that just wouldnt be right

I think they all drive 2016 Subaru Outbacks.

[VTHokieFan]

Originally Posted by clearwater66

The greater attention is on the issue of earth/life destroying, sociopathic, greedy corporate behavior.

Every delay costs Shell big bucks and therefore every minute they are up there is a sacred reminder of what some of us are here to accomplish.

Greedy corporate behavior*




*Nike is exempt

[pdxMIKEpdx]

They still have to get past a couple more bridges and a lot of river miles before they are in salt water.

I'll bet this isn't over.

And, Clearwater66, you don't think Shell budgets and plans for this kind of thing?

[clearwater66]

Maybe, Mike...

But it doesn't matter. This earth must be shared and not exploited this way.

We all deserve a say in this issue.

And when a small number want to use most of it to the advantage of a few, we must do anything we can.

While visiting New Mexico last year, I met a Paleontologist and professor at NMSU and he said this about fossil fuels..the organisms that comprise coal and oil were living beings on this earth, that died many years ago. They have become part of the earth. In their decomposition process, they aquired the toxic substances of all dead organisms, so when they are removed and set on fire, the nasty stuff that is meant to remain in the earth, now gets mixed in the air we breathe and the water we drink.

Additionally, coal and oil are finite. There will be an end to this and if we do not speed up the process of conserving and finding alternative sources, one day (very soon), we just may have to park those cars wherever they stop.

I have not owned a car in four years...this is a choice...life is a little harder and not so convenient but when I see young men coming home from war with legs blown off because we contrived a war to get oil, I know I do the right thing.

I get headaches in big cities, people are getting sick all over the world.

Those people hanging from the bridge in Portland are trying to do the right thing and they are my heroes.

[SyraBrian]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

This doesn't bode well for Portland's image as a place to do business and create jobs.

Oddly enough, shenanigans like this may cause cause the alternative fuel industry to think of Portland as an eco-friendly place from which they would like to conduct business.

[58rhodes]

Originally Posted by clearwater66

Maybe, Mike...

But it doesn't matter. This earth must be shared and not exploited this way.

We all deserve a say in this issue.

And when a small number want to use most of it to the advantage of a few, we must do anything we can.

While visiting New Mexico last year, I met a Paleontologist and professor at NMSU and he said this about fossil fuels..the organisms that comprise coal and oil were living beings on this earth, that died many years ago. They have become part of the earth. In their decomposition process, they aquired the toxic substances of all dead organisms, so when they are removed and set on fire, the nasty stuff that is meant to remain in the earth, now gets mixed in the air we breathe and the water we drink.

Additionally, coal and oil are finite. There will be an end to this and if we do not speed up the process of conserving and finding alternative sources, one day (very soon), we just may have to park those cars wherever they stop.

I have not owned a car in four years...this is a choice...life is a little harder and not so convenient but when I see young men coming home from war with legs blown off because we contrived a war to get oil, I know I do the right thing.

I get headaches in big cities, people are getting sick all over the world.

Those people hanging from the bridge in Portland are trying to do the right thing and they are my heroes.

thats all great but I would rather them do it in Seattle

[eric351982]

I was just down there and saw them dangling. There were a lot of people there watching!

[AndyAMG]

Meh, no biggie. Greenpeace could care less about jobs or economics. After all do you really think someone who can literally hangout for 4-5 days in the middle of the week gives a rip about jobs?

I once met Greenpeace members, they were almost like drones.

Penn and Teller did a show about Greenpeace and decided to give members a test about the environment that a 5th grader could have passed and none of them was better than a fifth grader. They knew next to nothing about the carbon cycle, nothing about the atmosphere, nothing about water, nothing about trophic levels or entropy or the rock cycle, or anything really.

I can not stand people who blindly follow a mantra with out having some actual education. Greenpeace are an interesting bunch.

Here are some Greenpeace drones, showing how easily they are duped and how uneducated they are. Not only that they started making stuff up about it and pretending like they were experts on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

(and yes, I know water is called oxidane)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

Coast Guard will clear them out, just like they did in Seattle and the bridge danglers can go back to blogging about bong maintenance or lesson planning for next school year.