10-30-2016, 04:04 PM
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Hi All!
As the title states, we are a family of (5) moving to the Portland suburbs in June 2017. My company has opened up a branch in North Portland (right next to University of Portland / Arbor Lodge area) and I'm going to be moving up in the springtime of 2017. Even though our branch is up in Northern Portland, I'm a Project Manager so I'm on-site for projects a lot so location close to the office isn't a top priority considering I'll only be going into the office a couple days and a week.
Yes, we are from the Bay Area and I know everyone in Portland hates all our guts right now because we are increasing the rent/mortgage prices. I'm sorry but the same thing is happening here in the Bay Area (only worse). We are currently living in a really nice small to mid-sized community with excellent schools and a strong sense of community. However, we are living with three small kids in a 1200sq ft two-bedroom apartment paying +$2K. They are increasing our rent on a yearly basis (not small increases either, last increase was $500/mo) so when this work opportunity in Portland came about, we jumped on it.
We are currently looking for a moderate sized 4bed/2bath in a suburb with a decent commute to the Downtown area. Obviously, we have three small children so schools are our #1 priority. Not only that, but our children are also in dual immersion programs (teachers speak in spanish only so English speaking kids learn spanish). We would like to continue them in this program if we can find a neighborhood that we love that offers it.
We're currently looking in Beaverton, Cedar Mills, Bethany and other communities located along that highway 26 corridor. We would love a home in a neighborhood that has a strong sense community and great for raising families with activities such as farmers markets, weekend movies in the park, things like that.
We just wanted to post this to gauge people's thoughts on areas where we should focus our search on and also if there are any areas we should avoid.
P.S. (**little background info**) we're not your "typical Caholes", we love the outdoors, biking, food, beer, motorcycles, hiking and the wintertime. We're very liberal for the most part and would prefer a laid-back, fun atmosphere
10-30-2016, 05:58 PM
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Sherwood is a great community for families. Welcome, from another Bay Area transplant. You won't be hated, so RELAX.
10-30-2016, 09:33 PM
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Sherwood is a great community for families. Welcome, from another Bay Area transplant. You won't be hated, so RELAX.
Thanks gray horse! We are also going to look in the Sherwood area and Tigard and Lake Oswego area. Sherwood is about as far away from Downtown that we'd want to be but if the schools and community are worth it then we're game.
We're visiting in mid November for a few days to drive around all these neighborhoods.
10-30-2016, 10:02 PM
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Actually PPS Spanish immersion programs usually need students at the 2nd grade + because we have few native speakers and there is normal attrition. My grandchildren are enrolled at Ainsworth so you may be able to enroll your children there even if you are not in the enrollment area.
Housing in the Ainsworth enrollment area is pricey, not quite SV levels but high for us. There are practical reasons for living on the same side of the Willamette as you work but the same rule could apply for schooling. Look just south of the Ainsworth enrollment area, less expensive.
The other PPS Spanish immersion program that I am aware of is at Bridger which has a significant (for us) number of families whose parents speak Spanish. I have a relative who teaches there and she does so out of commitment to the Hispanic community. She taught in the primary grades in Mexico and was a language major in one of Mexico's top universities. The Bridger enrollment area is somewhat working class but not by any means a ghetto.
I suggest you or your wife call PPS to ask about Spanish immersion programs that you could utilize then visit the schools.
A child's social life is built around their classmates. The logistics of attending school programs, sports and Scouting activities may be more important than your commute to work.
10-30-2016, 11:31 PM
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I am a CA native, San Franciscan, but moved to Portland from NYC. My family moved from Inner NE Portland to Beaverton last year and have been very happy with the decision. There are many neighborhoods out here I would suggest such as Cedar Hills, Murray Hill, Sexton Mountain, Cooper Mountain, South Beaverton to name a few. I wouldn't recommend Bethany because the schools it feeds into are great but overcrowded. You would maybe like Lake Oswego or West Linn. Portland has really great communities but the schools are struggling except for the schools with foundations. I enjoy being in Beaverton and not spending my free time fundraising for the school foundation which pays for the PE and band teachers. There are a few Spanish Immersion schools in Portland and go to PPS website to investigate any school in the district. Spanish Immersion is a focus option school so usually is lottery based.
As for being a Californian... well, I have felt the hatred by some but often from transplants from other states. If a native Oregonian has an issue it will usually not be outward aggression toward you. Since I lived in NYC for a long time, I seem like an East coaster to many out here and will be hated for being a dreaded NYer, not a dreaded Californian. I take it in stride and don't worry about it much. My kids are growing up here and are thriving! The rain builds character.
10-31-2016, 08:54 AM
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Actually PPS Spanish immersion programs usually need students at the 2nd grade + because we have few native speakers and there is normal attrition. My grandchildren are enrolled at Ainsworth so you may be able to enroll your children there even if you are not in the enrollment area.
Housing in the Ainsworth enrollment area is pricey, not quite SV levels but high for us. There are practical reasons for living on the same side of the Willamette as you work but the same rule could apply for schooling. Look just south of the Ainsworth enrollment area, less expensive.
The other PPS Spanish immersion program that I am aware of is at Bridger which has a significant (for us) number of families whose parents speak Spanish. I have a relative who teaches there and she does so out of commitment to the Hispanic community. She taught in the primary grades in Mexico and was a language major in one of Mexico's top universities. The Bridger enrollment area is somewhat working class but not by any means a ghetto.
I suggest you or your wife call PPS to ask about Spanish immersion programs that you could utilize then visit the schools.
A child's social life is built around their classmates. The logistics of attending school programs, sports and Scouting activities may be more important than your commute to work.
Thank you for the great info. We've heard good things about Ainsworth and we like the area around the school so we'll definitely check that one out.
Our oldest will be starting 4th grade next year when we move and he'll be coming from being in a Spanish program since he was in Kindergarten. We're hoping we'd be able to be somewhat "grandfathered" in because we have the same lottery based selection process here in the Bay Area. Our second oldest will be starting 1st grade so it sounds like he might have one year of English before going back into Spanish (Bay Area starts in kindergarten, Portland schools seem to start in 2nd grade).
As sad as it is to say, unfortunately, my wife and I are terrible at Spanish so going to Bridger doesn't sound like the best fit for us.
10-31-2016, 09:57 AM
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There isn't a difference in the Bridger and Ainsworth Spanish programs, just a difference in income levels. Our Spanish immersion programs start in Kindergarden as well.
10-31-2016, 01:26 PM
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Thank you for the great info. We've heard good things about Ainsworth and we like the area around the school so we'll definitely check that one out.
Our oldest will be starting 4th grade next year when we move and he'll be coming from being in a Spanish program since he was in Kindergarten. We're hoping we'd be able to be somewhat "grandfathered" in because we have the same lottery based selection process here in the Bay Area. Our second oldest will be starting 1st grade so it sounds like he might have one year of English before going back into Spanish (Bay Area starts in kindergarten, Portland schools seem to start in 2nd grade).
As sad as it is to say, unfortunately, my wife and I are terrible at Spanish so going to Bridger doesn't sound like the best fit for us.
The lottery programs tend to be pretty strict. I have never heard of transplants getting priority based on previous placement in an out-of-state district. This is the kind of thing that would **** off locals and residents who have been trying to get into any kind of focus option but especially Foreign language immersion. Sibling preference is the only preference I am aware of. Your best bet is to find a neighborhood where you like the neighborhood school and put your child's name in the lottery when you get the chance. In Beaverton the deadline is in January, I believe, and you need a Beaverton address with proof.
10-31-2016, 05:41 PM
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That is why I recommended contacting PPS. There is a lottery for entering an immersion program at the Kindergarten level (which is where the program starts). By the time the students enter the 3rd or 4th grade there may be space in those classes. I do know that students considered for entry at that level are tested for language (spoken and written) facility. The usual reason why vacancies occur is that parents are transferred out of the area.
11-01-2016, 05:08 PM
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Thanks Everyone for the great info! It sounds like will definitely have to be focusing our search in neighborhoods that have eligibility into a dual immersion program. That would be our best bet. However, it sounds like my fears were confirmed in that we're going to be putting our name in the hat very late in the game so to speak. The earliest we will have a local zip is going to be April 2017.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)