12-25-2008, 12:27 AM
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Hi there. I'm planning on moving to Portland in the spring and I was wondering how easy it is to bike and bus from North or North East Portland to Vancouver, WA. Specifically the community college in Vancouver (Clark). 10 - 15 mile one way bike commutes are ok for me, I worry much more about getting smacked down in heavy traffic. Thanks all!
12-25-2008, 04:03 AM
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Clark College is quite near I-5, but I have not used I-5 bridge as a bike route., The most problematic issue (besides safety, being only separated from cars by a railing...) is crossing the slough bridge (which is between Hayden Island and Portland (Delta Park)). I think the bridge approaches might be time consuming on I-5, but it could be good to find a spot on Hayden Island to live and then you just have to negotiate the interstate bridge, Once in Vancouver, If you can use the new pedestrian bridge over SR14 (near pedestrian walkway of I-5 bridge) you would be real quick to Clark, with no traffic hassles on Vancouver side.
The I-205 route is nice, but steep, high winds, and long. Once in Vancouver, you can bike McLoughlin (wide, light traffic) if you can climb the hill at Ellsworth. Evergreen Blvd is a flatter route in from the east, but narrow in spots. Portland has a decent bike trail along I-205, but its not the most friendly for commuting, as bike path designers don't think 'timely commute', and their crossings of major roads often result in delays. The 205 bike route is pretty optimal and well used.
BTW - why would you live in OR and school in WA? Kind of an expensive option. Especially if you are working and paying income tax.... you might as well utilize those well fed Portland colleges that you are paying for. Clark is considered superior in some subjects, especially math, but decent EDU programs in north Portland (Both public and Private).
Good luck,
I would ride both routes, and also blog onto some PDX biking sites, I turned from an avid (Daily) cyclist to a very infrequent rider
when I moved to PNW from Colorado 28 yrs ago. Dark, wet, narrow roads, + very inconsiderate drivers who are not used to '
SEEING
' cyclists. If you appreciate drivers giving you space, you will not be pleased with motorists in PNW. I have found only 10% will give you the courtesy of a couple feet, even if there are no cars approaching or next to them. Plus there are no 'snow' shoulders on the country roads on the west side of Cascades.
Wear bright colors, blinking lights, a side mounted flag, a helmet, and expect to be clipped.
Be careful, lots of folks can tolerate the danger of bike commuting in PNW, but since I gained the 'responsibility' of being a parent the same time as my move here... the bike commute had to go, and the life insurance had to increase. (yet another sacrifice from the 'freedom' of single-hood...
). Colo was heaven for cyclists, especially Boulder where they had full use of the right lane, and cars that don't move over got ticketed
I didn't live near there, but enjoyed riding through. We did 40-50 mile rides 2x / week on the way to work, and swam 72 laps on the other 3, I WAS in great shape, then
12-25-2008, 02:13 PM
Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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The Yellow (? I think) MAX line goes to the Expo Center, so you could live anywhere MAX-adjacent, and the ride would be across the Slough and I-5 bridges. If they EVER get approval for the I-5 bridge rebuild, I wouldn't count on a bike lane being open during construction.
12-25-2008, 08:24 PM
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Thanks for the responses you two, I appreciate it. The only reason I would take some classes in WA is because it would take me a year to become an Oregon resident where as if I live in Portland for 90 days they'll let me take classes in WA at quite a discount from normal out of state tuition. I haven't been in school for almost 20 years and I know I have to take remedial or referesher classes before I can do anything else. I'm aching to hurry up and do something with my life and I'd like to start over in Portland.
12-27-2008, 09:32 AM
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The Yellow (? I think) MAX line goes to the Expo Center, so you could live anywhere MAX-adjacent, and the ride would be across the Slough and I-5 bridges. If they EVER get approval for the I-5 bridge rebuild, I wouldn't count on a bike lane being open during construction.
That's my thought as well. However, that bridge won't start for 6-8 years and if you are a student now then it won't be a problem.
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Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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when I moved to PNW from Colorado 28 yrs ago. Dark, wet, narrow roads, + very inconsiderate drivers who are not used to '
SEEING
). Colo was heaven for cyclists, especially Boulder where they had full use of the right lane, and cars that don't move over got ticketed 
I didn't live near there, but enjoyed riding through. We did 40-50 mile rides 2x / week on the way to work, and swam 72 laps on the other 3, I WAS in great shape, then 
