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View Poll Results: Who is the Worst GM in the NFL?
Matt Millen 5 41.67%
Jerry Jones 5 41.67%
Vinny Ceratto 1 8.33%
Browns GMs 2 16.67%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-03-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Good news no1brownsfan, the Browns just fired GM Ray Farmer along with head coach Mike Pettine.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:37 PM
 
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Good news no1brownsfan, the Browns just fired GM Ray Farmer along with head coach Mike Pettine.
The Browns have gone through 3 head coaches and GM in 4 years.
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Al "Senile" Davis.

Every single 1st round pick from 2004-2011 were virtual busts.

Robert Gallery, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Rolando McClain, .... all worthless.

Actually traded up to draft Fabian Washington when Aaron Rodgers was still available. He went to GB on the very next pick. Rest is history. Also had a chance to draft Calvin Johnson but went with JaMarcus Russell, whom he called "a great QB." What a senile idiot he became.
Al Davis was a genius and trailblazer. In his later years he was not the same Al Davis but that happens with age. Have a bit more respect for the legacy. You must not know much about the man or Raider history if you'd use such brash language as "senile idiot".
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Old 01-04-2016, 06:34 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Good news no1brownsfan, the Browns just fired GM Ray Farmer along with head coach Mike Pettine.
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The Browns have gone through 3 head coaches and GM in 4 years.

I know. Though it's not something to exactly be happy about! I mean, Farmer needed to go, but here we are yet again back to square one! My question is, who in the HELL are the Browns going to find to straighten this mess out, and FAST???? The NFL is set up where a team can go from worst to first in a rather short time, so many of us Browns fans after 17 years or so, with 2 winning seasons, and 1 playoff appearance (which was 1 and done) are a bit sick of being told to be patient! Not to mention the last playoff victory from this team was in the 90s!
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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Al Davis was a genius and trailblazer. In his later years he was not the same Al Davis but that happens with age. Have a bit more respect for the legacy. You must not know much about the man or Raider history if you'd use such brash language as "senile idiot".
Bondurant is right. Age wasn't very kind to Al Davis in his last years of his life. He was however, a big figure in Raider history in its earliest beginnings. In 1962 the Raiders hit bottom with a 1-13 record under Eddie Erdelatz. At the time Davis was an assistant coach under Sid Gilman with San Diego. In 1963 the Raiders finished with a 10-4 record. You can't have much more of a turnaround than that. While he was with Gilman, he helped form a team that was in the AFL Championship game four out of its first five seasons.

Both men were color blind and had similar mindsets. San Diego was way ahead of the game regarding treating players fairly. The Chargers established a natural forming of the players with pairing players according to position when players roomed together on the road. Example: Running backs:Keith Lincoln was white and Paul Lowe was black. Tight end Willie Frazier was black and Jacque McKinnon was white. In their earliest years teams like the Chargers had a number of black players on their squad and in the NFL sadly there were still a few clubs that were woefully short regarding this situation. Sid Gilman faced discrimination pretty much his whole life, said Jack Kemp, who spent ten years as an AFL quarterback before getting into politics. And there was a reason for it. Sid Gilman was Jewish. So was Al Davis. Kansas City thought the same way. They drafted Buck Buchanon out of Grambling, drafted him #1. The first African American player to be drafted as a #1 draft pick. By 1969, eight out of the starting 11 players on KC's defense were black.Kansas City, San Diego, and Oakland were the three most successful franchises in the American Football League's history.

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Old 01-21-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I know. Though it's not something to exactly be happy about! I mean, Farmer needed to go, but here we are yet again back to square one! My question is, who in the HELL are the Browns going to find to straighten this mess out, and FAST???? The NFL is set up where a team can go from worst to first in a rather short time, so many of us Browns fans after 17 years or so, with 2 winning seasons, and 1 playoff appearance (which was 1 and done) are a bit sick of being told to be patient! Not to mention the last playoff victory from this team was in the 90s!
But their last playoff appearance was the 2002 season where they lost to Pittsburgh.
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Old 01-22-2016, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones are owners. But the people who work for them might be among the worst.
Jerry is the owner plus GM. In recent years he has relinquished some of his GMing to his son Stephen but make no mistake, Jerry is still the boss and GM.
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Old 01-22-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Al "Senile" Davis.

Every single 1st round pick from 2004-2011 were virtual busts.

Robert Gallery, Fabian Washington, Michael Huff, JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Rolando McClain, .... all worthless.

Actually traded up to draft Fabian Washington when Aaron Rodgers was still available. He went to GB on the very next pick. Rest is history. Also had a chance to draft Calvin Johnson but went with JaMarcus Russell, whom he called "a great QB." What a senile idiot he became.
Perhaps but Al Davis is a HOFer... maybe he stuck around too long but lets not forget his impact on the league during his first 40 years...
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Old 01-22-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Who was the genius GM in New Orleans that allowed Ditka to trade his entire draft for Ricky Williams? Ricky Williams was a good player in the NFL but you don't trade your entire draft for a single player, particularly when you have as many holes as the Saints had at that point in time.
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Old 01-22-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Worst ever...no. But Rick Smith for the Texans has not done well is his decade of chances.
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