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Old 10-23-2015, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Airport City
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Once people realized there are no such things as demons, they were able to treat mental illness with medicine. So yes, that would make diagnoses increase.
This realization is not absolute nor has it been disproven. All medicine does to mental illness is subside it for a few hours and get you high with detrimental side effects.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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So by your logic and assertion that things were much better treated when these conditions were assumed to be possession, acknowledging that his condition is a result of being possessed by the devil, shouldn't that make his illness easier to treat? How's that going? I'm curious to hear more about all the successfull treatments for possession by the devil. Surely, the schizophrenia has been cured, right?
I said nothing about treatment being better. I'm saying that these afflictions could be of a spiritual nature rather than just some chemical imbalance that should be treated with more chemicals that will cause an even worse reaction to the imbalance.

Those aforementioned treatments were archaic even by spiritual standards IMO.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:21 AM
 
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This realization is not absolute nor has it been disproven. All medicine does to mental illness is subside it for a few hours and get you high with detrimental side effects.
This is patently absurd.

Go pick up a science book and read some Psychiatric Times.

Religobabble has no place in a serious discussion of mental illness. It just doesn't.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Down the rabbit hole
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The mind is a mysterious thing. Treating for demonic possession may actually have better results than pharmaceutical therapy. If someone is convinced that they're possessed by demons, a talisman or ritual that's intended to drive out demons gives said person something concrete to grasp or believe. As opposed to a drug that purportedly changes the workings of the mind and works(?) gradually over a long period of time.

Belief can be a powerful force.
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Old 10-23-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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This is patently absurd.

Go pick up a science book and read some Psychiatric Times.

Religobabble has no place in a serious discussion of mental illness. It just doesn't.
So do you believe in Mind Body and Soul or Mind and Body?

Humble yourself, science can't save you.
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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So do you believe in Mind Body and Soul or Mind and Body?

Humble yourself, science can't save you.
You may have taken a wrong turn in the forum. You are currently in the Psychology forum, Religion is three doors down on the right!
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Old 10-23-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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These days when someone has a "mental illness," we jump through hoops to try to treat it with drugs, usually unsuccessfully. When will we learn to stop ignoring the real problem? What we should really be doing is tying up allegedly mentally ill people and throwing them into the water. If they float, we know that it must be demonic possession. If they drown, it probably wasn't, but then we don't have to deal with the issue anymore. Either way, we win.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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These days when someone has a "mental illness," we jump through hoops to try to treat it with drugs, usually unsuccessfully. When will we learn to stop ignoring the real problem? What we should really be doing is tying up allegedly mentally ill people and throwing them into the water. If they float, we know that it must be demonic possession. If they drown, it probably wasn't, but then we don't have to deal with the issue anymore. Either way, we win.
Or we could drill a hole in their skull to let the evil vapors out. Really, whatever works.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:34 PM
 
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Well I'm not speaking on science and chemical imbalances particularly. We do know that pharmaceuticals drugs do more harm in that manner than helping but to each their own.

I asked this because I have a friend who has a brother who is schizophrenic, the thing is before he came under this condition he told my friend that he made a pact with the devil and he will never be the same again. Sure enough he was never the same again, this happened 5 or 6 years ago.
I'm betting his schizophrenia predated his believing he made a pact with the devil. He was ill then and if he is now, I hope he get some medical help.
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Old 10-23-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Or we could drill a hole in their skull to let the evil vapors out. Really, whatever works.
LOL. Another great "cure". I like the one about the woman who is "curing" herself of breast cancer by drinking her own urine. Or the nuts who are promoting bleach enemas to "cure" kids with Autism. I kid you not. I'm not inventive enough to make up that level of crazy.
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