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One thing I've wondered for years is the whole "Transgender" deal in human sexuality. I completely understand homosexuality and bisexuality. You're attracted to who you're attracted to.
What I don't get is the whole "I'm a dude, but feel like a girl" (or vice versa) thing. I'm a guy. When I'm turned on, I get an erection. I assume that these guys are the same way as it's an automatic function of the male body.
I just can't wrap my head around "Let's go chop my penis off and put a hole there instead" thing as I'm not sure how having a fake Vagina would help.
I also don't understand since gender roles as we know it are a product of human creation. The clothing we wear, makeup, etc, is all a product of humans assigning one thing to a certain gender, which isn't biological at all. I mean, I'm the same size as my girlfriend, and have worn some of her clothes and don't feel different. And I did a few plays in the past and have worn makeup and haven't feel any more "feminine" than normal.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying things?
Is Transgenderism more of a Psycological thing more than a physical?
I am assuming you are a man. Imagine if you had to wake up every morning and put on women's shoes and clothes. And put on makeup. And use the women's bathroom. And carry a purse. You think why would I want to wear women's clothes and do all that, that's not right. I imagine that's the feeling someone who feels the wrong gender experiences in every aspect of their life.
I am assuming you are a man. Imagine if you had to wake up every morning and put on women's shoes and clothes. And put on makeup. And use the women's bathroom. And carry a purse. You think why would I want to wear women's clothes and do all that, that's not right. I imagine that's the feeling someone who feels the wrong gender experiences in every aspect of their life.
But all of what you mentioned is created by humans. 2,000 years ago, purses didn't exist. And bathrooms were holes in the ground. Did Transgenders not exist 2000 years ago?
I would think that was weird today since I was brought up as a man and the gender stereotypes were ingrained in me since I was born. I would assume the same is said for Transgenders as well, that they were brought up and raised in the sex their genitalia classified them as.
I really think they are born that way, it has nothing to do with psychology (we am not talking about guys who just like to wear women's clothes, but men and women who truly feel they were born the wrong sex. I think when the egg splits into gender, it doesn't split completely enough or something else goes wrong with the process during the very beginning stages of pregnancy.
I just can't wrap my head around "Let's go chop my penis off and put a hole there instead" thing as I'm not sure how having a fake Vagina would help.
Well, nature is known for occasionally making mistakes. We don't know the reasons why some people are born transgendered, but we do know that it happens. It may have to do with certain hormones during an unborn baby's development. Who knows. You as a regular man can't fathom that a person could be born into what they perceive as the wrong body. But that's just the way that you personally see things. You don't know what they themselves feel in their minds and in their bodies.
There does exist what's known as "intersex" people - they were once shamefully referred to as "hermaphrodites". Even though that's different from being transgendered, but it goes to show that nature doesn't always get things right. So, the point is that if nature can produce intersex people then it can also produce transgendered people.
I do agree with you though that creating a "fake vagina" wouldn't help, especially since the person would lose the ability to orgasm. But I guess that by having the surgery, they feel complete in that their body finally matches their mind.
Well, nature is known for occasionally making mistakes. We don't know the reasons why some people are born transgendered, but we do know that it happens. It may have to do with certain hormones during an unborn baby's development. Who knows. You as a regular man can't fathom that a person could be born into what they perceive as the wrong body. But that's just the way that you personally see things. You don't know what they themselves feel in their minds and in their bodies.
There does exist what's known as "intersex" people - they were once shamefully referred to as "hermaphrodites". Even though that's different from being transgendered, but it goes to show that nature doesn't always get things right. So, the point is that if nature can produce intersex people then it can also produce transgendered people.
I do agree with you though that creating a "fake vagina" wouldn't help, especially since the person would lose the ability to orgasm. But I guess that by having the surgery, they feel complete in that their body finally matches their mind.
I'm going to deconstruct your whole thread here later but once misconception I can shatter for you right now is most post-op transwomen have the ability to orgasm. I'll be back to educate the ignorant when I don't have patients to see.
I fully support a trangender person's desire to live an honest and fulfilling life, but it is a difficult concept to grasp sometimes. It brings up the whole amorphous question of what it really means to be a man or a woman. A while back I saw a news piece on parents open to their small children living a transgender life (this was long before Brad and Angelina's child was in the news.) After seeing it I wondered if, for example, a five-year-old child born a boy wants to ride a pink bike and have long hair and wear a dress, does that mean that he wants to be (or is) a girl, or does that mean that he doesn't want to fit into the gender roles and stereotypes that society or family are pushing him towards. Since at that age it's not a sexual thing, what is the psychology there?
Last edited by fleetiebelle; 01-13-2015 at 11:21 AM..
Atheists don't read this, sorry, it will offend...maybe.
Caverunner,
I understand this is not in the Unexplained Mysteries area...but...this is the deal...
we have past lives....
try being a male the last 20 lifetimes, then suddenly pop out a woman!!!
They can't adapt.
If you have NOT been back and forth a man and then a woman many times...
you are not very well rounded, thus, the shock...the difficulty integrating.
Oh, if they could just hang in there and not change their bodies...
what great lessons they could learn...
And that is WHY they were sent here that gender.
We are all being molded like a clay pot in Demi's hands...oh, I meant God's...
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