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Old 06-17-2018, 03:14 PM
 
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I'd phrase it differently:

Yes, I think even the most evil people could probably have lived in a way that didn't spread harm, if they'd grown up differently.

You might like the movie "Max," about an art dealer who encounters a young artist named Adolf Hitler.
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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See:
• The Sociopath Next Door, Martha Stout
Very interesting book about sociopaths.

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Most psychopaths are not serial killers, just troublesome people. Robert Hare is a good read on this subject.
Robert Hare has done research on psychopathy. "Psychopath" and "sociopath" are lay terms, the former being a criminal term. The terms are not the same.
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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No. You are born how you are IMHO
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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There's lots of debate regarding nature vs. nurture so I am curious, when it comes to the most evil people to have existed such as Vlad the Impaler, Hitler, Stalin, Elizabeth Bathory, Mao, Pol Pot etc. as horribly unspeakably evil as they all were, do you think had all these people been born into caring, loving, nurturing homes they would have had a chance at being good people?
Hard to tell to be honest... There are so many factors. And we must consider some of the people who have grown up in hateful environments and then have gone on to be good people. That said, I believe that each of us has a certain trigger that if pushed could send us on a rampage.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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If I recall Hitler's parents were certainly not prizes. However I don't believe they were totally responsible for the creation of Adolph Hitler. He was also a product of World War 1 and the aftermath. If Hitler had died in WW1 obviously he never would have risen to be the head of the Nazi party. But he had a whole bunch of followers and fellow members .... it is possible one of them would have become head of the Party.
Hitler made choices; he had free will.
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Old 06-17-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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No. The core cannot be changed.
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Old 06-17-2018, 09:07 PM
 
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Certainly, family upbring, parenting, home environment, have a huge effect on a child. All the stdies prove that, on average, a child raise in a loving family with their own mom and dad, will have a huge positive effect on a child
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Do you think even the most evil of people could have been good had they grown up in a good caring family?

No, because some people are just the way they are and their families, good or bad, affect them, but don't change them.I feel some people just have a solid core in them that can't be changed. I also feel some people are born with their wires crossed, so that no matter what you do for them, they are physically damaged and can't be changed, no matter how loving the family is.
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:49 AM
 
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Mama tried to raise me better but her pleading I denied, that leaves only me to blame cause Mama tried...
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Old 06-18-2018, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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I think nurture is very important, but it's not everything. It's a mixture of nature and nurture. Some very evil people came from relatively normal families, and some abused children grow up and deal with the abuse in early adulthood via therapy and become wonderful, loving, caring individuals.
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