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Old 11-18-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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Hookers are not going to be a replacement for a gf or wife. They provide sex, not companionship. There are some high-priced escorts I suppose who will be arm candy for a night out but it is all show and they are not going to provide warmth and affection which sounds more what you are seeking. It is also illegal in most places and there are busts all the time.

Difficulty in meeting people to have a relationship with is a common problem. You just have to get out and do things. Volunteer, join clubs, get out and do things. I lived in Seattle and a hiking club there, the Mountaineers, was well known as a place to meet other people for possible relationships. When you quit looking is probably when you will meet someone.
I've tried that nearly every time I go out I'm not looking to meet someone and I never do. Same as when I do go out looking to meet someone lol. But I guess my view of actually being social is a bit skewed...

 
Old 11-18-2019, 06:47 PM
 
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This website has a bunch of articles... its a bit disorganized, but start clicking on links and you'll find your way through..

this one might resonate with the OP - https://www.succeedsocially.com/shyguys
A lot of that did resonate. Especially the part about not being able to even talk to women you're attracted to or how to carry a conversation. I don't have the problem of not knowing what to do on dates or how to reciprocate advances from a woman who's interested or escalating on said interest, because no women are interested in me and I can't get a date lol. That's what's more frustrating than anything. I don't even get a opportunity to muck things up.

Think I need to just accept I'm worse looking than I thought lol.

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Old 11-18-2019, 08:35 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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So some background on my situation:

I'm*26 and I basically have crippling social anxiety. I feel into the incel scene and few times and because of my lack of any actual female companionship, I do have a porn addiction. I do have a few friends, but they don't really share the same interests as I. For the past year and a half, a least one a week we go to the couple of bar. Ones is a wine bar*, one is a dice. In that span I've been bit on only a few times and it's either gone nowhere, or I was too oblivious to notice. But I flat put cannot approach any female I see out that I'm attracted to. It never gets any easier for me.

The top two recommendations are also dating sites and meet-ups. I've tried dating sites and it hasn't worked. Not bc the dates don't really go anywhere or whatnot, but because I can't*get any. I've has tinder, okc, and humble active for years and I cant get a single*reply. I'm 6'3, I work out 3x a week and have six pack abs, I groom to the point of metro sexuality, I wear literal high fashion suits(tom ford, slp, Burberry,) I make decent money, and I live alone. I know I'm not really physically attractive, but I'm not totally ugly either, so the complate lack of any replies or matches on these sites have all but destroyed any confidence I could have with females irl.

When I go out I'm basically*uniformly ignored by females. Hell, pretty often I get compliments from guys based on my attire but females completely ignore. I don't get looks, or glances or casual chit-chat. Nothing.

The second recommendation tends to be meets ups. And while that is probably more conductive to meet a*mate, its not possible for me as an introvert. None of my friends are really interested in the ones I'd attend, and I simply cannot go alone. Thus the only option I really had are the bars I frequent, which has beared no fruit.

Hence why at this point entertaining hoookers seems to be the only option. The feeling of loneliness and unhappiness is reaching levels I cant handle. Constantly seeing everyone else with dates, fwbs, gfs, wives, etc while I have nothing is just killing me. If I has the luxury of dating sites or parties, of if I had tons of friends or was still in college, or an extrovert, I would have other venues, but I don't.

At this point porn isn't enough, and I know empty sex as a business transaction likely won't help my situation in the*long run but I'm pretty much optionless.


Some things jump out at me "I just can't get any" and "I have a porn adiction". Bars "(sic) has beared no fruit" - In other words, you didn't "get any".


You have a few friends and they don't share your interests, which appear to boil down to a porn addiction, sex, working out and self admiration, and designer clothes.

So porn's not working, and while you are quite the physical specimen, women are not biting.

You don't seem witty or interested in others and their needs. You seem narcissistic and interested in your own needs and angry that they are not being satisfied. In fact, you state "it's killing me".

So, essentially you made this post to pose the age old question - Are prostitutes right for me?


My response may surprise you. Actually YES. I think you are just the guy prostitutes - or escorts, as you call them ARE made for - men who want to meet a woman, exchange a sum of money, and "get some".
With a prostitute, that's a sure thing!

After a while though, just like porn, prostitutes will begin to disappoint you. If you want an escort that you can take out on a date, or pose as your girl friend at a friend's wedding, that will get very expensive.

I think you are extremely lonely, self centered and narcissistic. I also think you don't like yourself, and you don't like women. You like what they can do for you. I don't think you are actually interested in other people as human beings.

If you ever want to be happy, I would recommend that you see a qualified psychodynamic therapist.

The brief joy of sex with hookers will leave you hollow and empty.

ETA - your screen name is somewhat disturbing. "lambofdeth"??? Please see a psychiatric professional soon. I don't have a good feeling.

Last edited by sheena12; 11-18-2019 at 08:57 PM..
 
Old 11-18-2019, 09:26 PM
 
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Some things jump out at me "I just can't get any" and "I have a porn adiction". Bars "(sic) has beared no fruit" - In other words, you didn't "get any".
You're over-simplifying it. I didn't go to bars to just add notches to my bedpost. I didn't have the option of online dating or organically meeting women via a social setting, so that's what I defaulted to. No, its not the most resourceful or plausible, but it was the only readily available choice.


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You have a few friends and they don't share your interests, which appear to boil down to a porn addiction, sex, working out and self admiration, and designer clothes.
I have a myriad of interests, actually. The issue is I have no one to really share them with. As I said earlier in the thread, hiking, museums, geeky stuff, festivals, art, music, etc

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So porn's not working, and while you are quite the physical specimen, women are not biting.

You don't seem witty or interested in others and their needs. You seem narcissistic and interested in your own needs and angry that they are not being satisfied. In fact, you state "it's killing me".
I don't recieve the opportunity to be interested in other people lives, so that's hardly fair to say.

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So, essentially you made this post to pose the age old question - Are prostitutes right for me?


My response may surprise you. Actually YES. I think you are just the guy prostitutes - or escorts, as you call them ARE made for - men who want to meet a woman, exchange a sum of money, and "get some".
With a prostitute, that's a sure thing!

After a while though, just like porn, prostitutes will begin to disappoint you. If you want an escort that you can take out on a date, or pose as your girl friend at a friend's wedding, that will get very expensive.
Yes, that's what I'm afraid of.

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I think you are extremely lonely, self centered and narcissistic. I also think you don't like yourself, and you don't like women. You like what they can do for you. I don't think you are actually interested in other people as human beings.

If you ever want to be happy, I would recommend that you see a qualified psychodynamic therapist.

The brief joy of sex with hookers will leave you hollow and empty.
Again, not all of that is fair. Ultimately, what I do what is a relationship. Someone to share those interests I have with. A chance to care about and grow with someone. And I don't dislike women. I just resent that they never give me a chance, yet you are so many deadbeat, abusive, violent and manipulative dudes having no trouble procuring options and making connections.

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ETA - your screen name is somewhat disturbing. "lambofdeth"??? Please see a psychiatric professional soon. I don't have a good feeling.
lol its an amalgamation of the names of two metal bands. That's all.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 10:29 PM
 
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You know it is interesting. Seeing a therapist was one of the best things I have ever done in my life. But you have to be all in. And you have to be willing to think new thoughts. They don't have a pill to just give you what you want. Given how resistant you are to any thoughts that did not originate from your pain, I can see how it would not have helped you.
This is some of your best advice.
 
Old 11-18-2019, 10:58 PM
 
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So some background on my situation:

I'm*26 and I basically have crippling social anxiety. I feel into the incel scene and few times and because of my lack of any actual female companionship, I do have a porn addiction. I do have a few friends, but they don't really share the same interests as I. For the past year and a half, a least one a week we go to the couple of bar. Ones is a wine bar*, one is a dice. In that span I've been bit on only a few times and it's either gone nowhere, or I was too oblivious to notice. But I flat put cannot approach any female I see out that I'm attracted to. It never gets any easier for me.

The top two recommendations are also dating sites and meet-ups. I've tried dating sites and it hasn't worked. Not bc the dates don't really go anywhere or whatnot, but because I can't*get any. I've has tinder, okc, and humble active for years and I cant get a single*reply. I'm 6'3, I work out 3x a week and have six pack abs, I groom to the point of metro sexuality, I wear literal high fashion suits(tom ford, slp, Burberry,) I make decent money, and I live alone. I know I'm not really physically attractive, but I'm not totally ugly either, so the complate lack of any replies or matches on these sites have all but destroyed any confidence I could have with females irl.

When I go out I'm basically*uniformly ignored by females. Hell, pretty often I get compliments from guys based on my attire but females completely ignore. I don't get looks, or glances or casual chit-chat. Nothing.

The second recommendation tends to be meets ups. And while that is probably more conductive to meet a*mate, its not possible for me as an introvert. None of my friends are really interested in the ones I'd attend, and I simply cannot go alone. Thus the only option I really had are the bars I frequent, which has beared no fruit.

Hence why at this point entertaining hoookers seems to be the only option. The feeling of loneliness and unhappiness is reaching levels I cant handle. Constantly seeing everyone else with dates, fwbs, gfs, wives, etc while I have nothing is just killing me. If I has the luxury of dating sites or parties, of if I had tons of friends or was still in college, or an extrovert, I would have other venues, but I don't.

At this point porn isn't enough, and I know empty sex as a business transaction likely won't help my situation in the*long run but I'm pretty much optionless.
I have seen many average looking white men having asian spouses. You could try that route.Unfortunately many people in Philipines, Thailand or vietnam are still ready to do that. That will at least have you a good partner for the rest of your life instead of having unknown partners.Also by encouraging hookers or escots, you are not doing any good to them either other than giving some money.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 03:10 AM
 
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I have seen many average looking white men having asian spouses. You could try that route.Unfortunately many people in Philipines, Thailand or vietnam are still ready to do that. That will at least have you a good partner for the rest of your life instead of having unknown partners.Also by encouraging hookers or escots, you are not doing any good to them either other than giving some money.
Tru dat.

Move to Japan and go from nobody to somebody in no time:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owb1Zyb2FBA
 
Old 11-19-2019, 03:48 AM
 
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I have seen many average looking white men having asian spouses. You could try that route.Unfortunately many people in Philipines, Thailand or vietnam are still ready to do that. That will at least have you a good partner for the rest of your life instead of having unknown partners.Also by encouraging hookers or escots, you are not doing any good to them either other than giving some money.
Lol I'm black. And I don't want to move to Japan.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I'm more of a cat person, actually.

Put a harness on your cat, start walking your cat regularly without a scowl. If you are willing to put yourself out there in style, then people will notice. And all you need is one positive connection.
 
Old 11-19-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Possibly vacation in a third world nation where women will hit on you.
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