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What if it is not flashing lights but a sign that lists time and speeds. Do people get the message as quick?
Do we actually need some kind of 2X4 to hit us to break us out of our habits or can we, as humans, actually think?
What if it is not flashing lights but a sign that lists time and speeds. Do people get the message as quick?
Do we actually need some kind of 2X4 to hit us to break us out of our habits or can we, as humans, actually think?
You mean like normal speed signs? The schools have lights because the speed changes on a regular basis.
When the speed changes for a construction zone, they put up signs to warn you.
San Francisco's parking rules change almost every day, they have a sign up with when and what time you can park.
People can get the message, or risk a ticket. It's pretty simple.
We drive a 5th wheel between states, the rules change as soon as we cross the state line, no sign needed.
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Changing your own habits, and mental tendencies? Much more difficult, but doable with motivation.
Yeah, those bad habits of speeding and ignoring road warnings?
I think it's true that there are a group of us who just don't have a lot of self-awareness. They do their thing and outside influences don't leave much of an impression. If something changes in their environment sometimes they are so preoccupied that they don't notice. You have to call it to their attention. The thought disordered, cell phone obsessives and brain damaged folks are among them.
Then there's that other group who notice but aren't going to let a road sign dictate the speed to them. The mule skinners had a method for calling their stubborn charges attention to what they were expected to do. First you hit 'em upside the head to get their attention.
This generally works faster than the reward method. But you end up with cranky mules.
People can get the message, or risk a ticket. It's pretty simple.
Putting aside the now-debunked 10,000 hours to change or learn bit from Malcolm Gladwell, it does seem like punitive measures have the most effect. If someone speeds through a school zone every day, and nothing happens, they have no impetus to change that behavior. If they get a $500 ticket, that's often more of a prompt to follow the rules than doing the right things for their own sake.
Putting aside the now-debunked 10,000 hours to change or learn bit from Malcolm Gladwell, it does seem like punitive measures have the most effect. If someone speeds through a school zone every day, and nothing happens, they have no impetus to change that behavior. If they get a $500 ticket, that's often more of a prompt to follow the rules than doing the right things for their own sake.
Or, you run over a kid. That would have a lasting impact.
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The original post is another misguided post that makes vast generalizations and is more an opportunity for whinges and personal experiences than creating any insight. The examples given are trivial and subject more to laws of averages than psychology.
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Except for overthinkers who turn molehills into mountains .
Agreed. Not really something that rises to a psychological issue for discussion.
I know Smugglers Notch well, and have been through it even before the road on the Cambridge side was paved. There is no way a 53 foot trailer can negotiate the curves and grade in the notch with huge boulders on either side.
Yet, every year there are truckers who completely ignore every clear warning and get stuck, much like moths that are attracted to and killed by flame. There is a specific ego trait that seems to be common within those who make the attempt. I find that very interesting in the self destructive aspects.
IIRC, the first truck to get stuck was in the 1980s. Some trucks were long before then, but travel was much more local and drivers knew what the notch was like. Plus, truth be told, most had little reason to go from Stowe to Jeffersonville.
There is a certain amount of schadenfreude in tallying the totals each year and reading the explanations.
Your approach to life is fantastic and thought-provoking. Can you give examples of things that you would change. Is it correct to assume that people like you are open-minded and a constant thinker. I'm curious, from a psychological perspective, what drives you to do this?
I never had any problem realizing I was driving past a school zone (flashing lights, usually a parked cop car, at least a crossing guard) and understanding that summer is over and school is in session. There was no conscious thought process needed.
I DID have some thought adjusting to do when I retired and kept asking "Why the heck are all these school buses in my town on Saturday?" Then I realized it wasn't Saturday.
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