05-02-2014, 02:24 PM
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The only places I recall seeing mangroves in PGI canals is on inside or outside corners that have silted in, and once the mangroves take hold, the silting gets worse. Even if you could remove the mangroves, you might be in for a big dredging bill to get enough water under a lift. Better to stay away.
05-06-2014, 06:01 PM
Location: Lemon Bay, Englewood, FL
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LOVE the Clint Eastwood clip!! This is great!
05-07-2014, 11:17 AM
Location: Florida
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Just trim them hedge high, no need to kill them as they look good when kept up with and provide an area for fish to hide or eat. Nobody I know gets a permit...but don't put the branches in the trash
. The crazy stories about owners getting huge fines are usually about acres of protected wetlands...and in many of those cases it was worth the fine from the rich owner's standpoint to get their view and water access back.
The are far from endangered (it seems) and they are almost impossible to kill while pruning. The laws are in place to discourage large landowners and developers from bulldozing huge areas IMO. A few mangroves should not keep you from buying a property. I like my mangroves, keeps my shoreline from eroding and gives me better fishing off the dock.
I see many seawalls that have them growing...and then they are magically gone the next time I pass by. (insert Clint here)
10-29-2014, 09:16 AM
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Mangrove Removal Charlotte County
Apparently it is now legal to completely remove ALL mangroves from your lot line along a canal in Port Charlotte. A neighbor just did it and was turned into code and they cleared the complaint as "unfounded" even though the pile of mangroves, both cut and pulled out by the roots were in the front yard and the evidence of a clear water line was inspected by none other than Code guy Charlie Busch. What a joke.
10-29-2014, 05:40 PM
Location: New Jersey/Florida
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Quote:
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katmart
Apparently it is now legal to completely remove ALL mangroves from your lot line along a canal in Port Charlotte. A neighbor just did it and was turned into code and they cleared the complaint as "unfounded" even though the pile of mangroves, both cut and pulled out by the roots were in the front yard and the evidence of a clear water line was inspected by none other than Code guy Charlie Busch. What a joke.
I'm assuming that you might know the guy who turned the neighbor in, and this person is not happy that the code guy didn't fine him. Great first post. lmao
10-29-2014, 06:57 PM
Location: Port Charlotte
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I see No benefit of Mangroves against a seawall.. In Feel They ( IMHO) Should always be removed in such situations to eliminate restricting canal access. They are NOT Native to the canals, the canals are all man made and these are just invading and will in time reduce property values and desirability . This is not in keeping with the intention of the canal communities.. Think to the future ( PLANNING)
10-29-2014, 08:36 PM
Location: Port Charlotte
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JERSEY MAN
I'm assuming that you might know the guy who turned the neighbor in, Great first post. lmao
10-30-2014, 11:03 AM
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You hit the nail on the head. We passed on a lot last year exactly because of Mangroves on it. Didn't want the headache.
The lot still sits unsold, by the way. And the mangroves are probably that much bigger by now.
Tell me that doesn't negatively impact property values and I'll gladly offer to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn...
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I see No benefit of Mangroves against a seawall.. In Feel They ( IMHO) Should always be removed in such situations to eliminate restricting canal access. They are NOT Native to the canals, the canals are all man made and these are just invading and will in time reduce property values and desirability . This is not in keeping with the intention of the canal communities.. Think to the future ( PLANNING)
01-14-2015, 11:34 AM
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I revived this thread because? I really feel it could save people some, heart break ,money, aggravation and maybe hahahaha some jail time ( just kidding settle down : ) So I made an actual call , no more guessing no more saying what we wish was true or repeating BAD information.. I called 239 344 5600 ( ask for Tim) they will connect you to him.. Explain your issue or concern and give him an address.. He does ( I assume ) a Google Earth Search for the address and can tell you a lot.. further discussion afforded me a lot more information about the does and the dont's concerning Mangroves and their trimming and removal in the State Of Florida. AFTER reading about owners responsibilities and rights at the before posted web site in this thread and THEN Talking to Tim........ I now "Think" I have a pretty Good Idea of what is expected .. I wanted this info for some shooting from the hip decisions concerning water front lot purchases for family..IMHO having talked to Tim.. Basically if your lot /water front is Mangroves line to line.. you will be allowed to $$ Trim Them to about 6 feet ( NO LESS) and clear enough of them for a walkway to your dock and lift..Are There Variables? YES THERE ARE.. Do Not Count On Your being Given The Best Case Scenario as your out come.. ON EDIT : KatMart: if you see this post and make THE CALL that neighbor is in for a HUGE surprize..No Good Old Boy Connections will save him now.. $$$$$$$$$$$
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House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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