Edwater bridge clearance (Sunrise, Punta Gorda, Spring Lake: homes, buying, legally)

[MikeM8560]

the planned new bridge hights for spring lake east spring lake and sunrise bridges ;

The proposed bridge design slightly raises the clearance at each bridge. However, they will not accommodate larger or taller boats than they do now.

The proposed West Spring Lake bridge will have a Bottom of Bridge Elevation at the Mid-Channel at 12.3 feet, which means the bottom of the bridge will be 12.3 feet above the zero elevation (i.e., sea level) established by the US Geodetic Survey. Effectively the proposed Vertical Clearance from Mean High Water (MHW) will be 11.1 feet versus the existing Vertical Clearance from MHW, which is about 10.6 feet, an increase of about 0.5 feet or about 6 inches. The horizontal clearance at Mid-Channel between faces of bridge support will be 32'-6"

The proposed East Spring Lake bridge will have a Bottom of Bridge Elevation at the Mid-Channel at 12.5 feet, which means the bottom of the bridge will be 12.5 feet above the zero elevation established by the US Geodetic Survey. Effectively the proposed Vertical Clearance from Mean High Water (MHW) will be 11.2 feet versus the existing Vertical Clearance from MHW, which is about 10.5 feet, an increase of about 0.6 feet or about 7 inches. 'The horizontal clearance at Mid-Channel between the bridge supports will be 32'-6".

The proposed Sunrise Waterway Bridge will have a Bottom of Bridge Elevation at the Mid-Channel at 11.6 feet, which means the bottom of the bridge will be 11.6 feet above the zero elevation established by the US Geodetic Survey. Effectively the proposed Vertical Clearance from Mean High Water (MHW) will be 10.4 feet versus the existing Vertical Clearance from MHW, which is about 8.9 feet, an increase of about 1.5 feet or about 18 inches.'The horizontal clearance at Mid-Channel between the bridge supports will be 32'-6"

[MikMal]

Originally Posted by MikeM8560

the planned new bridge hights for spring lake east spring lake and sunrise bridges ;

The proposed bridge design slightly raises the clearance at each bridge. However, they will not accommodate larger or taller boats than they do now.

So do they plan to raise the water level accordingly?? Only a Guberment official could come up with a statement like that. Albeit, they won't accommodate a much taller boat.

Seems a waste to spend all the time, effort, and $$ putting in new bridges and raise them only 6, 7, and 18 inches respectively (although at least the 18" raise is a respectable amount). I understand the whole "angle of approach" thing for the roadway. Just saying it may have been worth it for the boaters with no inconvenience to the motorists.

[MikeM8560]

I only see 8' at my bridge mike. As long as the new hardtop fit im happy. They do want 4 lanes too.

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by MikMal

Seems a waste to spend all the time, effort, and $$ putting in new bridges and raise them only 6, 7, and 18 inches respectively (although at least the 18" raise is a respectable amount). I understand the whole "angle of approach" thing for the roadway. Just saying it may have been worth it for the boaters with no inconvenience to the motorists.

I posed this question to the engineers and officials years ago when the bridge heights were announced and was told that a taller bridge would require the county to purchase more property for the approach on each side of the bridge (apparently they're no longer allowed to make drastic bridge approaches like you see along Marion in Punta Gorda). Since all of the bridges have homes adjacent the bridge, it would be too costly to buy them all just to increase the heights a couple more feet.

[MikMal]

I wonder why they didn't consider retaining walls along the sides of the approaches? Seems it would have been cheaper than buying additional properties yet still achieve the higher bridges. I guess thinking like that is why I wasn't a highway engineer!

[Harbor Hopper]

Originally Posted by MikMal

I wonder why they didn't consider retaining walls along the sides of the approaches? Seems it would have been cheaper than buying additional properties yet still achieve the higher bridges. I guess thinking like that is why I wasn't a highway engineer!

They can't put up huge walls next to an existing home. This would significantly devalue the home and the gov't can't legally do this. Their only option is eminent domain, which like I said, would be too expensive just to add a couple of feet

[MikeM8560]

due to the increased approache hight at sunrise Carlisle will be a culdesac .


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[MikMal]

What's that going to be south of Carlisle; a retention pond or some kind of park (or both)?

[MikeM8560]

It said it was a expansion of sunrise park mike and a pond

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