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I would just like to state a few facts--not opinions--just because it is obvious some people cannot take a few minutes of their time to read the NC bicycle and pedestrian law. The link has been posted on this thread and on this forum numerous times. Page 19 has the responsibilities of the motorists. I have posted the link at the bottom.
under NC law bicycles are considered vehicles
there are instances where a motorist can be left of center of a highway
by reading the laws you can clearly see if the motorist cannot safely pass by the 2 foot minimum than you should not pass.
A motorist overtaking a bicycle must pass at least two
(2) feet to the left of the bicyclist and must not move
back to the right side of the highway until safely past
the overtaken bicycle.
A motorist may not drive left of the center of
the highway to pass a vehicle, including a bicycle, in
these circumstances:
• Unless the left side is clearly visible and free of
oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance ahead
that the motorist can pass the bicyclist safely.
[§20-150(a)]
• On the crest of a hill or at a curve in the road
where the driver cannot see at least 500 feet
ahead. [§20-150(b)]
• At any railroad grade crossing or intersection,
unless directed to do so by a traffic control
officer. [§20-150(c)]
• Where the Department of Transportation has
placed signs or markers indicating that passing
should not be attempted.
And we thought you were being sarcastic about hitting a cyclist or running them off the road with your vehicle. I hope that if you do put someone in the ditch that this thread comes up and they change the charge from vehicular manslaughter to murder 1, since there is evidence it is premeditated....
Show me where I posted I was going to run someone off the road or worse hit them.
Again, I'm not a lunatic. But my point is with holy grail attitudes such as the one you demonstrate I will now have even less tolerance for you idiots riding in the middle of the road. Am I going to run someone off the road? Of course not. What's bad is I demonstrate a lot more courtesy towards people on the street whether it's a cyclist, pedestrian, scooter, or whatever than most of the other drivers. That is until I run up on you riding in the middle of the road with your entitlement attitude. From now on I'll just drive like everyone else when I pass a cyclist by not slowing down and blowing past with only 2 ft to spare.
Show me where I posted I was going to run someone off the road or worse hit them. (1)
Again, I'm not a lunatic. But my point is with holy grail attitudes such as the one you demonstrate I will now have even less tolerance for you idiots riding in the middle of the road. Am I going to run someone off the road? Of course not. What's bad is I demonstrate a lot more courtesy towards people on the street whether it's a cyclist, pedestrian, scooter, or whatever than most of the other drivers. That is until I run up on you riding in the middle of the road with your entitlement attitude. From now on I'll just drive like everyone else when I pass a cyclist by not slowing down and blowing past with only 2 ft to spare. (2)
Congrats on being the bad apple.
Your post that I quoted mocked the idea of sharing the road, wished cyclists luck, and said that they'll need nobbies. What conclusion was I supposed to draw? (1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by underPSI
Oh so you really weren't being sarcastic? LoL!
Yeah, now I really want to "share the road". Good luck, bicyclists. Hope your road bike has nobbies.
And again, I challenge you to find anywhere where i said I feel entitled to take the middle of the road, other than a short distance where it was unsafe not to do so (I gave specific examples). Really, you keep posting stuff implying how you'll take out your aggression on cyclists and then denying it, and you also keep making stuff up about what I say. I've said more times than I can count that I take very big issue with the cyclists who are the bad apples. (And I've gone as far as to stop what I was doing, and to tell them so. Usually I'm met with something less than a thank you for the advice.)
Now again, please tell me what I was supposed to conclude from what you said earlier (1), or from your quote above (bolded part) (2), and then go quote something I said in context where I've shown an attitude of entitlement, or showed I was a bad apple. Don't make sh/t up, actally quote me. Please.
From now on I'll just drive like everyone else when I pass a cyclist by not slowing down and blowing past with only 2 ft to spare.
Congrats on being the bad apple.
And I'll just add that the HUGE majority of drivers don't drive like that. In over 12,000 miles of cycling on the road, I've only had a few experiences of aggression like the kind you are so proud to brag about. I've found that you get what you give, and I give respect, and by a huge margin, I am glad to say I get it back too.
A motorist may not drive left of the center of[/font]
the highway to pass a vehicle, including a bicycle, in
these circumstances:
• Unless the left side is clearly visible and free of
oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance ahead
that the motorist can pass the bicyclist safely.
[§20-150(a)]
• On the crest of a hill or at a curve in the road
where the driver cannot see at least 500 feet
ahead. [§20-150(b)]
• At any railroad grade crossing or intersection,
unless directed to do so by a traffic control
officer. [§20-150(c)]
• Where the Department of Transportation has
placed signs or markers indicating that passing
should not be attempted.
It seems most of Six Forks / New Light Rd. is double-yellow lines. If we adhered strictly to this, I'd likely never get past a biker.
you can cross the double yellow when there is no one coming from the other direction and you can see ahead. If you click on the link it takes you to the entire handbook. It explains it better than the few excerpts I pulled from it.
A motorist may not drive left of the center of
the highway to pass a vehicle, including a bicycle, in
these circumstances: • Unless the left side is clearly visible and free of
oncoming traffic for a sufficient distance ahead
that the motorist can pass the bicyclist safely.
[§20-150(a)]
• On the crest of a hill or at a curve in the road
where the driver cannot see at least 500 feet
ahead. [§20-150(b)]
• At any railroad grade crossing or intersection,
unless directed to do so by a traffic control
officer. [§20-150(c)]
• Where the Department of Transportation has
placed signs or markers indicating that passing
It seems most of Six Forks / New Light Rd. is double-yellow lines. If we adhered strictly to this, I'd likely never get past a biker.
There are some stretches on New Light where you'd have to stay slow for a cyclist for quite a ways before you'd be able to safely pass. Much worse than Six Forks where I was almost in an accident caused by a cyclist.
Imo, cycling should be outlawed on any road that has a speed limit over 35 mph until dedicated bike lanes can be added. It's one thing if cyclist want to endanger their own lives, but quite another when they endanger motorist lives on roads that were designed for cars and trucks.
Btw, I really liked your other post. You said what most motorist are thinking.
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