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Old 10-14-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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The point is that the local rules are/were more protective of the environment and homeowners than are the state rules. Each town is in its own niche, so I think that the stronger, more restrictive rules should prevail.
Maybe.
But, as citizens of the state, we should be pushing the state harder for environmental protection.
And, "anti-monotony" protects no one.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Are they?
I see approved plats all over the place that are not revised.

And, "gone" has such a finality to it. Is the decision not reversible next year, or in 5 years? I think it is.
I don't think it changes existing buffers, just for new projects that are submitted. And yes, they can be reversed by the legislature. If so, it will create some interesting situations where different neighborhoods being built out at the same time have different rules depending on when they were approved. The code enforcement people will have to be reading their documents closely.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Southport
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Are they?
I see approved plats all over the place that are not revised.

And, "gone" has such a finality to it. Is the decision not reversible next year, or in 5 years? I think it is.
Yes, they are. The plats you see were obviously approved prior to the change. And yes, obviously all laws are "reversible". But the Repubs aren't going to lose control of the GA any time soon.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Southport
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But, as citizens of the state, we should be pushing the state harder for environmental protection.
LOL, good luck with that in the current, and at least near future, political environment.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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LOL, good luck with that in the current, and at least near future, political environment.
Then it's the will of the people.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Southport
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Then it's the will of the people.
Not sure what that means.
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Old 10-15-2015, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Not sure what that means.
It means that the current and future political environment is directly attributed to the votes of those that bother to let their choices be counted at the polls. Hence the will of the people.
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Old 10-15-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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So the Cary mayor had these comments in his weekly blog (10/12/2015). Not sure that he agrees with these points below, but does anyone know what the backstory is on making Cary appear to be 'giving in' to developer demands?

"emails from staff included legislative updates. They include:

Cary aesthetic controls have been eliminated. This removes our anti-monotony, garagescapes and slab-on-grade requirements.
Cary’s protest petitions were also eliminated. Now developers only need a simple majority even if surrounding properties object to the development.
Local governments are now prohibited from requiring compliance with state rules for Jordan Lake.
Our 100 foot stream buffers, used to protect water quality, may now be eliminated since they are stronger than the state requirements.
Developers may now include stream buffers in their buffer requirements, basically allowing them to build right next to the buffer. This will likely create future flooding events for those new residents.
The town may no longer require developers to have stormwater protections greater than the state. This is another rule that will likely create future flooding events for residents.
There are a whole host of changes, and the legislature continues their assault on our right to govern ourselves. For Cary, this means a “dumbing down” of the rules, which puts our quality of life in jeopardy."

What the heck?

And will it spread to (be forced on) other communities?
Now maybe we'll finally see some residential development in that town!
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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And that's my rub here. I don't always love all of Cary's rules, but honestly, they are in an area that is in demand, regardless, so why shouldn't the duly elected Cary board be able to require "better" development? If the people do not like it, they can vote them out. It has certainly happened before when the real hard line members from 10-15 years ago ended up getting voted out for more moderate though still not let it roll types. Same goes for most towns in this area really.

This is similar to places out in the oil boom areas of the Dakotas where they have rolled out the red carpet for the companies in the form of low taxes. Why on earth would you do that, the oil is only where it is so supply and demand dictates the towns should be able to get more.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Southport
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It means that the current and future political environment is directly attributed to the votes of those that bother to let their choices be counted at the polls. Hence the will of the people.
In reality, its a bit more complicated than that. For example, with the General Assembly gerrymandered to insure republican control, it is quite easy for the will of the people (i.e. the desire of a majority of voters) to not effect political outcomes.
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