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Old 07-20-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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We love dogs, but do not own them (or want to) and currently in a terrible situation with a very unreasonable neighbor with dogs who bark all day. Trying to get out of our lease and look at other options (there are other issues here as well)

Anyway, I was wondering if there are any newer apartment complexes in the Raleigh/Cary area that do not allow dogs? Or have buildings that do not allow dogs?

Thanks so much
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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I think a lot of people wish there would be, but I seriously doubt it.
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Old 07-20-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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It's not realistic anymore. Unfortunately too many take advance of the "emotional support animal" thing and regardless of what landlords restrict anyone can have one. So all that has happened is an increase in costs overall putting pet damage into basic rent.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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It's not realistic anymore. Unfortunately too many take advance of the "emotional support animal" thing and regardless of what landlords restrict anyone can have one. So all that has happened is an increase in costs overall putting pet damage into basic rent.
Landlords aren't required to take emotional support animals. ESAs aren't protected by the ADA. They are only required to take trained service animals. The problem comes in how they verify it's a trained service animal. They are legally only able to ask two questions: 1- Is that a service animal? and 2- What task is it trained to perform? (And it has to be a specific task. Simply saying "he calms me" isn't a task. But "when he senses an anxiety attack he performs deep pressure therapy" or "he licks my face to distract me from PTSD attacks") They can't require a demonstration of any sort.
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Old 07-21-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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Landlords aren't required to take emotional support animals. ESAs aren't protected by the ADA. They are only required to take trained service animals. The problem comes in how they verify it's a trained service animal. They are legally only able to ask two questions: 1- Is that a service animal? and 2- What task is it trained to perform? (And it has to be a specific task. Simply saying "he calms me" isn't a task. But "when he senses an anxiety attack he performs deep pressure therapy" or "he licks my face to distract me from PTSD attacks") They can't require a demonstration of any sort.
Actually, the Fair Housing Act does allow for Emotional Support Animals as well as Service Dogs.

https://www.fairhousingnc.org/wp-con...ing-ACC-06.pdf
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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Actually, the Fair Housing Act does allow for Emotional Support Animals as well as Service Dogs.

https://www.fairhousingnc.org/wp-con...ing-ACC-06.pdf
Interesting. I thought the ADA was the "law of the land" ... I didn't realize that the FHA made for more allowances. What I find interesting is the line "Landlords must allow an exemption to a "no pets' policy for a tenant that has an emotional support animal because of his/her disability, unless the animal would create an undue burden." That's pretty vague and doesn't appear to have any further explanation. Seems that would be an easy way out of that. LOL

Sorry OP. I think I've kind of derailed the discussion.

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Old 07-21-2019, 08:15 AM
 
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I believe the only undue burden allowed is large insurance cost increases.

It's an industry wide issue. Same for the airlines where people take advantage of it. I was able to get an ESA letter for a $175 fee (stopped before payment obviously) by answering questions online on my cell phone. Then you buy a little vest to put on the dog on eBay and pesto, you can bring your dog with you on your trip (and to your hotel - no fees)!
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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I believe the only undue burden allowed is large insurance cost increases.

It's an industry wide issue. Same for the airlines where people take advantage of it. I was able to get an ESA letter for a $175 fee (stopped before payment obviously) by answering questions online on my cell phone. Then you buy a little vest to put on the dog on eBay and pesto, you can bring your dog with you on your trip (and to your hotel - no fees)!
So sad but so typical these days. I feel bad for those with real disabilities. And no, getting nervous going on a plane isn't a disability.
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Old 07-21-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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We love dogs, but do not own them (or want to) and currently in a terrible situation with a very unreasonable neighbor with dogs who bark all day. Trying to get out of our lease and look at other options (there are other issues here as well)

Anyway, I was wondering if there are any newer apartment complexes in the Raleigh/Cary area that do not allow dogs? Or have buildings that do not allow dogs?

Thanks so much



Let us all know if you find any places with outdoor dining and no dogs!


THX!
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Old 07-21-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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Let us all know if you find any places with outdoor dining and no dogs!


THX!
Not looking likely for any complexes in the area. I think renting a house is the only option unfortunately.

It's also insane how defensive and ornery people with dogs get if you politely mention their dogs have been barking all day while they were at work. The entitlement of people thinking that because they decided to buy two dogs and can't give them attention 9 hours out of the day, that it's ok for everyone in the building to just suffer the consequences. (we work from home most days)

Rant over haha
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